HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/12/1975 (2)PLANNING COMtiISSION
40 Town of Los Altos Hills
26379 Fremont Road
Los Altos Hills, California
Minutes of February 12, 1975
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Chairman Donald Spencer called the meeting of the Planning Commission to order
at 7:50 P.M. in the Council Chambers of Town Hall:
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Schick, Young,
Chairman Spencer
Staff: City Manager Robert Crowe, City Engineer Alex Russell, Planning
Consultant Tom Vlasic, Deputy City Clerk Virginia Huffstetter.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: January 22, 1975 and January 3, 1975
January B.
Commissioner Perkins corrected the Minutes as follows: Page 1, Approval
of Minutes, Jan. 8, 1^.75, first paragraph:
"Commissioner Perkins stated on the December 11, 1974 Minutes, pp. 3 thru 5,
under 'Continued Review on Study on Subdivision Revisions to the Town's
Subdivision Ordinance', all changes agreed on which were not by motion were
by concensus of the Commissioners present."
January 22, 1975:
Cha rman Spencer said it was his understanding that at the Meeting of
January 22, the Commission had set the Noise Element and the Seismic Safety
Element for a Public Hearing. Planning Consultant Tom Vlasic said he was
under the same impression. Staff was asked to check this matter out for
the Commission.
There being no further corrections. Chairman Spencer declared the Minutes
of January 8, 1975 and January 22, 1975 approved as corrected.
STUDY SESSION:
1. Format for Planning Commission Meetings:
At the request of Chairman Spencer, this item was held over to the
end of the meeting, should there be time, or until the next meeting of
the Commission.
2. Planninq Services:
Chairman Spencer noted that at their meeting of January 29, 1975, the City
Council had requested the Planning Commission to submit comments to them
concerning the needs of the Commission for planning services to carry out
the programs and goals of the Community. The following comments were
received from the Commissioners:
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - February 12, 1975
DISCUSSION ON PLANNING NEEDS (cont'd):
Chairman Spencer commented that he felt the Town has mis-used the Planning
Consultant in the past. He thought the Town would be better served by
a Consultant as opposed to a Town Planner. He noted that a Town of this
size could not offer advancement to a Staff Planner except in salary, nor
would a Staff Planner have the opportunity for a wide variety of planning.
He felt the position would be used as a springboard to other positions
outside of the Town.
A Planning Consultant, Chairman Spencer said, would have other sources of
Income, and other people with whom he could consult; he had exposure to
other communities and ideas, and another member of the firm could replace
him should the Consultant be unavailable for some meetings.
Commissioner Carico agreed with Chairman Spencer regarding a Planning
Consultant. She cite; the Seismic Report soon to be completed by Dr.
Cotton, Town Geologist, and fir. Kerry Sieh, which would give the Town
important information which could make it possible to cut down on professional
planning advice. Commissioner Carico said she would like to work with
professional planners for at least six months after the completed Seismic
Safety Report concerning specific problems. At that time, the needs of
the Commission should be re-evaluated.
Commissioner Schick agreed with the comments of Chairman Spencer and
Commissioner Carico, and thought the present Building and Engineering
Departments should be able to handle routine matters, especially if more
use was made of the Ordinance in the Municipal Code pertaining to preliminary
maps. She thought a professional Planner or Consultant should be used for
Special Projects.
Commissioner Perkins stated that the Community deserved the best possible
planning that could be obtained. He said the type of expertise needed by
the Town could not be obtained through a Staff Planner, but through a
Planning Consultant firm; that the Town did not have the facilities necessary
for an in-house Planner (i.e., a library), where a Consultant had such
resources, as well as good contacts. Commissioner Perkins felt it could be
shown that the costs for a Consultant would not be any more than for an in-
house Planner.
Commissioner Young agreed with the comments made by the other Commissioners,
pointing out that the addition of a Staff Planner would also require
additional back-up Staff. He noted he was in favor of using a Consultant
whenever possible to maintain Staff at a minimum, and consistent with the
Town's needs.
Commissioner Phillips felt the major responsibility of the Town was in the
area of managing the Town's development, but thought the present cost figures
of the Consultants, in addition to costs of other Staff members, were high.
He also thought the principle of "management by objective" should be applied
to the Town, and that all possibilities should be investigated, such as
using volunteers, abolishing the Planning Commission and letting the City
441 Council assume those duties, contracting for services with other cities,
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DISCUSSION ON PLANNING NEEDS (cont'd):
hiring a combined City Manager -Planner, or a Consultant firm.
Commissioner Brown expressed concern that the Town might be in a difficult
position if it tried to rely on Staff exclusively. He thought the Town
could see how much the Staff could do in the way of planning services, but
felt there was need for a Consultant at times.
Commissioner Perkins also noted that the Commission's needs were: 1) the
best professional input available when considering subdivisions; and 2)
innovative planning for the future.
Commissioner Young commented that a decision should be made regarding the
level of services a Consultant would provide; that is, a low level of service
would include variances, building site approvals, conditional use permits,
etc. A high level of service would include subdivisions.
Chairman Spencer directed Staff to forward the comments made by the
Commission regarding planning needs to be forwarded to the City Council for
their meeting of February 19, 1975.
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS:
REQUESTS FOR EXEMPTION FROM SUBDIVISION MORATORIUM:
1. Lands of Monte Lucero No. 4, File #TM390-72, Sandis & Assoc., Engineers:
Mr. Vlasic noted a letter had been received from Mr. Alan Lambert, repre-
senting the applicant, on January 9, 1975, requesting that this tentative
map be declared exempt from the subdivision moratorium, since there would
be no grading, the density was low, and no natural habitats or flora would
be destroyed.
Mr. Alan Lambert, speaking for the applicant, addressed the Commission
regarding the reason the request for exemption was being made.
MOTION SECONDED AND CARRIED: Commissioner Schick moved, seconded by Comm.
Young that the Lands of Monte Lucero, No. 4 be declared exempt from the sub-
division moratorium because it does not raise significant questions relative to
the concerns enumerated in the subdivision moratorium. The motion carried by
the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Schick, Young, Chair-
man Spencer.
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
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REQUESTS FOR EXEMPTION FROM SUBDIVISION MORATORIUM:(cont'd)
2. Lands of Brown/Hubb, File #TM2018-75, Sandis & Assoc., Engineers:
City Engineer Alex Russell reviewed the background of the tentative map,
and noted that a letter had been received from Mr. John Humber, representing
the applicant, dated January 23, 1975, requesting this exemption.
In their memo of February 7, 1975, Staff recommended approval of this
exemption since it would require no additional grading for road improvements,
and the locations of the proposed dwellings did not appear to create any
significant drainage problems.
MOTION, SECONDED AND CARRIED: Commissioner Perkins moved, seconded by Comm.
Carico that the Commission recommend exemption from the subdivision moratorium.
The motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Schick, Young, Chair-
man Spencer.
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
3. Lands of Mueller, File ATM2019-75, Paul Nowack, Engineer:
City Engineer Alex Russell reviewed the background of the tentative map and
noted that a letter had been received from Mrs. Margaret Mueller, dated
January 31, 1975, requesting an exemption from the moratorium because it will
not create any grading other than normally experienced in the placement of
a home, and no significant drainage problems were apparent at this time.
MOTION SECONDED AND CARRIED: Commissioner Perkins moved, seconded by Comm.
Young that the Commission recommend exemption from the subdivision moratorium
for the Lands of Mueller. Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Schick, Young, Chair-
man Spencer.
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
4. Lands of Land Resources Inc., File BTM2020-75, George Nolte, Engineer:
City Engineer Alex Russell reviewed the tentative reap, and noted that a
letter, dated January 10, 1975, had been received from Mr. Brett LaSchell,
Vice President of Arastra Ltd., requesting exemption from the subdivision
moratorium for this property because the proposed subdivision was not in
conflict with relation to problems enumerated in the moratorium Resolution.
Staff, in the memo dated February 7, 1975, recommended that the request be
granted since it did not appear that the subdivision presented serious
grading or drainage problems.
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46, REQUESTS FOR EXEMPTION FROM SUBDIVISION MORATORIUM: (cont'd)
Mr. Jack Leudeman, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission
relative to this request for exemption.
Discussion ensued between Commission, Staff, and applicant regarding
the slope of land, grading, and cuts and fills for the cul-de-sac shown
in the proposed subdivision.
Commissioner Perkins moved, seconded by Chairman Spencer that the Commission
recommend denial of this request for the following reasons: 1) The sub-
division is relatively steep (23.4%); 2) there are potential problems with
the proposed cul-de-sac and the road access of the individual lots; 3) the
pathway is not shown as being separated from the road. The motion carried
by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Perkins, Chairman Spencer.
NOES: Commissioners Phillips, Schick, Young
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
Mr. J. Romer, Engineer for the applicant, also addressed the Commission
regarding the request of Land Resources for exemption.
6 PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. Lands of Adobe Creek Mr. David Bellucci: Re uest for Conditional Use
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or Non- rofit Recreation C u Fi e U 00 -
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MOTION SECONDED AND CARRIED: Commissioner Schick moved, seconded by Chairman
Spencer and unanimously carried that the public hearing on this matter be
continued to the Commission meeting of February 26, 1975.
2. Lands of Overstreet, File gCU8005-75, h1r. William Smith En ineer:�
Request for Con itional Use Permit for secon dwelling:
Mr. Vlasic, Planning Consultant, reviewed the Staff memo of February 7,
1975 pertaining to this request for a conditional use permit. He stated
that Staff recommended approval of the request subject to the conditions
cited in that memo, and also recommended that this application be declared
categorically exempt from the requirements of the California Environmental
Quality Act.
Mr. and Mrs. Overstreet, applicants, addressed the Commission, stating it
was their intention to reside in what will be the secondary dwelling on
this land, until such time as the primary dwelling is built. Upon completion
of the primary dwelling, the kitchen facilities would be removed from this
premises in compliance with the requirements of the Municipal Code.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (cont'd):
Lands of Overstreet (cont'd):
Commissioner Perkins moved, seconded by Commissioner Ycune Vlat Vie
Conditional Use Permit for Lands of Overstreet be granted under the
conditions enumerated in Staff's memo of February 7, 1975, and this
application be declared exempt from the requirements of the California
Environmental Quality Act. Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Young, Chairman
Spencer.
NOES: Commissioner Schick
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
Commissioner Schick stated her reason for voting no on this application was
because of the Ordinance contained in the Municipal Code which requires all
non -conforming uses to be phased out by 1976.
2. Subdivision Ordinance - Proposed Changes (Continued from 1/22/75).
Chairman Spencer made the motion to limit discussion on each item to three
minutes, and to defer those items requiring a longer discussion to the
end. Motion died for lack of a second.
ADDITION TO SECTION 9-4.102 (p) PURPOSES:
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Perkins to add (p) to
Section 9-4.102 as follows:
"(p) To ensure that all development be aimed at disturbing the natural
terrain to the least extent possible, and as a corollary, that the end
result inflict the least possible visual impact upon the neighborhood."
Motion carried by the following roil call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Schick, Young, Chairman
Spencer.
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
SECTION 9-4.210. Subdivision Committee:
Commissioner Schick moved, seconded by Commissioner Carico to amend the
proposed revision to this section as follows:
"Subdivision Committee" shall mean a committee composed of the following
persons or their designated representative: the City Manager, the City
Engineer, the City Planner, and a Planning Commissioner.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
4W AYE: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Schick, Young
NOES: Commissioners Perkins, Young, Chairman Spencer
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE _6_
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SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE PROPOSED CHANGES: (cont'd)
SECTION 9-4.RIJ Tentative maps: Filing: Referrals: Fees.
(d) Distribution of copies: Subdivsion Committee conferences.
City Engineer Alex Russell recommended that this section should be trans-
ferred to Section 9-4.407, Preliminary Maps: Subdivision Committee con-
ferences, of the Code.
Commissioner Perkins moved that Staff re -word this section in light of the
evening's discussion and be r3ferrad to the Council with the recommended
changes of the Commission's intent that the orderly processing of the
subdivisions be made in a timely fashion, using the preliminary map process,
if appropriate. Commissioner Schidcseconded the motion which was carried
by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Young, Che.innam Spencer
NOES: Commissioner Schick
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Brown
SECTION 9-4.411 Tentative mc,Qs. Required information.
a (2): Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Perkins to
accept the recommended revision to this section as shown in the Staff
4W Memo of February 6, 1975, namely:
"For all subdivisions of five or more parcels, an aerial photograph showing
current buidling or subdivision operations within 1,000 feet of the project
at a scale not less than 1" - 400', and showing the approximate subdivision
boundaries, streets and lot lines of the proposed subdivision and all
properties within 300' of the subject site."
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Phillips, Perkins, Young, r!iainian S!�oncer
NOES: Commissioners Carico, Schick
ABSTAIN: !arenissioner Brown
ABSENT: NONE
Commissioner Carico stated she had voted no because the County aerial maps
are updated each year, and she thought the Town could use these maps.
SECTION 9-4.411 Tentative fiaps:_Required information.
Chairman Spencer moved, seconded by Commissioner Carico that Section 9-4.411
(a) (1) and (2) be approved as amended. The amendments are shown as.follows:
"Section 9-4.411. Tentative maps: Required information.
The following information, unless otherwise noted, shall be provided
on tentative maps:
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SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE PROPOSED CHANGES: (cont'd)
Section 9-4.411 (cont'd):
"(a) The tract name or number, the date, north point, scale, and
contour intervals, all located in the right-hand lower corner of the
map, and the following information, as appropriate, sufficient to
describe and define the location and boundaries of the site and surround-
ing areas:
"(1) A portion of the Town 1" = 400' base map showing the
Proposed subdivision and all existing properties within 1,000
feet of the site.
"(2) For all subdivisions of five or more parcels, an aerial photo-
graph showing current building or subdivision operations within
1,000 feet of the project at a scale not less than 1" = 400', and
showing the approximate subdivision boundaries, streets and
lot lines of the proposed subdivision and all properties within
300' of the subject site."
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Perkins, Phillips, Young, Chairman Spencer
NOES: Commissioners Carico, Schick
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
Section 9-4.411
(f): Commissioner Schick moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown that this
section be approved with the deletion of the words "drawn to scale." The
motion failed by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Schick
NOES: Commissioners Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Young, Chairman Spencer
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Phillips, that this sub-
section (f) be approved as presented, namely:
'(f) The locations, names, widths, and approximate grades of all proposed
roads in the subdivision. Grades shall be shown by center line profile,
preferably referred to mean sea level datum as established by the United
States Geological Survey or to benchmarks of the County Engineer. Typical
cross sections shall be provided of all roads, and design of berms, curbs,
gutters, pathways, trails, and other improvements drawn to scale. Additional
cross sections shall be presented as required by the City Engineer.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
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SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE PROPOSED CHANGES: (cont'd):
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Young, Chairman Spencer
NOES: Commissioner Schick
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
Section 9-4.411 (as above)
J;LJ :
Speaking from the Floor:
Mr John Humber, Sandis and Associates, requested that the Commission consider
changing the wording in this section to read, "The Civil Engineer shall
tEttIll attest". He also requested that where the slope contours were greater
than 309; the contour interval be changed to ten feet (10').
Commissioner Schick motioned that the requests made by Mr. Humber and
supported by the City Engineer be added to the revision; further that the
last line of the revision proposed for (j) read, "disposed of subject to
modification of the tentative map at the time of submission of the improve-
ment plans".
6 However, Commissioner Perkins requested an amendment to the proposed motion
to read that the City Engineer may accept a map with contour intervals
greater than five feet, if appropriate. The motion was accepted by Comms.
Schick and Young.
City Manager Robert Crowe suggested clarifying certain words contained in
the proposed revision, which were also accepted as amendments. The proposed
motion then, reads as follows, the deletions being shown as (///), and the
additions underscored in the body of these Minutes, as follows:
"(j) An accurate contour map of the land to be divided with existing and
proposed contour lines. Contour interval shall not be AWreg ater than two
feet (2') where slopes are predominately five percent (5%) or less_ MOO
and five feet (5') where slopes are predominately steeper than five percent
TM
Ninety percent (90%) of all contours shall be accurate within one-
half (�) contour interval, and all contours shall be accurate within
a contour interval. The City Engineer may, however, accept topographic
information of lesser accuracy for those areas of a subdivision site that
are difficult to survey due to topography and/or vegetative cover, and where
he can determine that more accurate topographic information for such areas
will not be critical to design and/or density of the subdivision. Further,
n- cate a vi ngineer shall certify as to the accuracy of the
existing and proposed contour lines. The contour map shall be accompanied
by an overall grading plan showing how the runoff of surface waters will be
AW achieved and how all surface waters will be disposed of, subject. to modifi-
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SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE PROPOSED CHANGES: (cont'd)
Section 9-4.411 (i) (cont'd):
The motion carried unanimously.
Discussion ensued between Commission and Planning Consultant regarding
the last amendment, "subject to modification of the tentative map at the
time of submission of the improvement Plans."
Motion was then made by Commissioner Carico, seconded by Chairman Spencer
to delete the following words from the amendment to the subdivision ordinance
as stated in (j), above: "subject to modification of the tentative map at the
time of submission of the improvement plans."
Section 9-4.411 (as stated above):
(r): Chairman Spencer moved, seconded by Commissioner Phillips, that this
section be approved as amended in the Staff Mena of February 6, 1975, and
which reads as follows:
"(r) The proposed landscaping plan shall address landscaping within the
road right of way and landscaping of all major cut and fill surfaces created
by the subdivision grading as necessary to prevent erosion. The landscaping
plan shall also provide for maintenance of plants until they are established."
The motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Perkins, Phillips, Young, Chairman Spencer.
NOES: Commissioners Carico, Schick
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
Commissioner Schick stated she had noted no because of her objection to the
words, "licensed landscape architect."
Section 9-4.411 (as above)
(v) Motion was made by Commissioner Perkins, seconded by Chairman Spencer
to approve this section as recommended by the Planning Consultant this
evening to read as follows:
"(v) A preliminary title report dated within the last 30 da s in support of
the tentative map, giving the names o record owners of t e and proposed
for subdivision, and all existing easements and other reservations, re-
strictions or covenants of record affecting the land."
The nation carried by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Carico, Perkins, Phillips, Young, Chairman Spencer
`► NOES: Commissioner Schick
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
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SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE PROPOSED CHANGES: (cont'd)
Section 9-4.411 (as above)
(w): After discussion between Commission and the Planning Consultant,
Commissioner Carico offered an amendment which failed for lack of a second.
After continued discussion, Commissioner Phillips moved, seconded by
Commissioner Young to approve the changes recommended to (w) in the Staff
memo of February 6, 1975, as follows:
"(w) A preliminary soils report prepared by a civil engineer registered
in California and specializing in soils engineering, unless waived by the
City Engineer. The preliminary soils report shall only be waived if the
City Engineer determines that existing documented information is adequate
to describe the soils qualities of the soils of the subdivision."
Section 9-4.411 (as above)
(x): Commissioner Phillips moved, seconded by Commissioner Young that this
sux4-section be approved with the recommended changes, as follows:
"(x) A report prepared by engineering geologist registered in California,
unless waived by the City Geologist:"
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Perkins, Phillips, Young, Chairman Spencer.
NOES: Commissioners Carico, Schick
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Brown
Section 9-4.411 (as above)
SXL Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Carico that this
sub -section be approved as recommended in the Staff memo of Dec. 23, 1974,
as follows:
"(y) An Environmental Assessment Worksheet. A draft environmental impact
report shall also be required if determined necessary by the City Manager
or his designated representative."
Motion carried unanimously.
Section 9-4.602 Lots:
Commissioner Schick made a motion to make certain changes to this Section,
sub -sections (a) and (e), which was seconded by Commissioner Young. The
motion failed to receive a majority vote, however.
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SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE PROPOSED CHANGES: (cont'd)
Section 9-4.602 (as above) (cont'd)
Commissioner Perkins moved, seconded by Chairman Spencer to approve
the changes in this sub -section as recommended by Staff, as follows:
"(4) Within each lot intended for residential purposes, there shall be a
buildable area suitable for a residence and automobile parking which, at a
minimum, meets the following criteria:
a. Area of at least 7,000 sq. feet.
b. Average slope not in excess of thirty percent (30%).
c. Accessible from a road by a driveway meeting the standards of
Title 9, Chapter 3.
d. Within setback lines and unencumbered by areas subject to a 100
year flood, potential landslides, active faults, conservation ease-
ments, easements for vehicular access as defined by Sec. 9-5.206,
areas of critical ecological significance as may be defined in the
Conservation Element of the General Plan, or other physical con-
ditions that render the area unsuitable for construction of a resi-
dence.
e. At least 4,000 sq. ft. of the 7,000 sq. feet area within the 160'
diameter circle described in (3) above.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYE: Commissioners Brown, Perkins, Phillips, Chairman Spencer.
NOES: Commissioners Carico, Schick, Young
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
Because of the lateness of the hour, discussion was held to determine the best
evening to consider the remaining sections of the proposed changes to the Sub-
division ordinances. It was determined that the Commission would meet on
Tuesday, February 18, 1975 at 7:30 P.M. in the Council Chambers of Town Hall for
the continued Public Hearing on this matter.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 11:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Norma J. Hislop
Deputy City Clerk
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