HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/25/1976 (2)PLANNING COMMISSION
Town of Los Altos.Hl lis
26379 Fremont Road
Los Altos Hills, California
REGULAR MEETING
Wednesday, February 25, 1976
Reel 46, Side One, Tract Two, Count 15 to BOO.
Chairman Carlin called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m., in the Council Chambers,
Town Hall, Los Altos Hills, California.
A. ROLL CALL: Chairman: Judith Carlco
Commissioners: Keith Brown, Lucy Hillestad, William Perkins
David Proft, and Kenneth Young.
Also Present: A. D. Russell, City Engineer; K. R. Pastrof, Town Planner;
and D. Pennington, Secretary.
Absent: Commissioner: T. Schick
B. CONSENT CALENDAR
At the request of Commissioner Perkins, the sole item on the Consent --
Calendar, the approval of the minutes of January 28, 1976, February 11, 1976,
and February 14, 1976, was removed from the Consent Calendar for separate
consideration.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 28, 1976
Commissioner Perkins moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown, that the minutes
of the meeting of January 28, 1976 be approved as written. The motion
carried unanl musty.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 14 1976
Commissioner Proft moved, seconded by Caomissmeloner Hillestad, that the
minutes of the meting of February 11, 1976, be approved as written. The
motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 14. 1976
Corrections to the minutes of the meeting of February 14, 1976 were made
as follows:
Page 1, Third Paragraph, beginning of third line should read:
'- . . . the Introspection Night . .
Page 2, Third Paragraph, middle of fourth line should read:
" , . . Public Works Committee . . .
MOTION: Canmissloner Brown moved, seconded by Commissioner Proft that the
minutes of the meeting of February 14, 1976 be approved as corrected. The
motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Hl l tested commented that all three sets of minutes were very
[ good.
fir' C. STUDY SESSION: PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONING - Revised Draft Ordinance
Chairman Carlin noted that the Council had asked the City Attorney to pro-
vide the Commission with a written report on exactly what changes were made
In the proposed ordinance. When the report wasn't received by February 9,
Chairman Carl cc, called the City Manager. In order to avoid any misinter-
pretations, he suggested she call Mr. Glllio direct, which she did.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - February 25, 1936
PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONING - Continued
Mr. Gllllo told Chairman Carico the words In parenthesis In Section 5 were new,
as was all of Section E, and that those two changes were made to strengthen
the proposed ordinance. She asked him to submit that In writing to the Com-
mission, or to come to this meeting. He told her that both requests were
Impossible.
Commissioner Brown suggested that the Planning Commission press Mr. GI I Ito for
his written report so that It can forward the Information to the Council for
their benefit as well as the Planning Commission's own. He noted that the
Commission had previously asked the City Attorney to provide It with a list of
the advantages and disadvantages of this ordinance, and he had not done so.
Perhaps they should ask Mr. Gllllo again for this data. Then, furnished with
all the necessary Information, they could make a recommendation to the Council.
Chairman Carico was very disturbed that the Planning Commissioners had not been
given the requested report. She mentioned that in August 1975 she wrote to
Mr. GI IIto regarding the Open Space Report. When he didn't respond, she sent
two follow-up letters. He didn't reply to those either. She didn't know what
anyone could do to get him to cooperate and assist them. She really felt they
had been let down in this Instance.
Commissioner Brown suggested that If there were no response from the City
Attorney In two weeks, that the Planning Commission so note In Its recommendatior
to the Council, and have the matter specifically placed before the Council.
Commissioner Proft thought that for something as important as a new zoning
ordinance, the Planning Commission should at least have someone from the City
Attorney's office present to answer questions. He thought It abominable that
the Planning Commission had not gotten support from the Attorney on this item.
Chairman Carico stated she had asked the City Attorney many times to be at
their meetings. She had particularly wanted him present when Three Forks Lane
development was discussed, and had asked that he attend the first meeting the
Commisslon had on this proposed ordinance, but he refused to do so.
Commissloner Young commented that the proposed ordinance's requirement for an
acre for a public utilities substation was an overkill. Mr. Russell advised
that the Municipal Code states that public utilities substations do not have
to have an area of one acre or more.
Commissioner Perkins pointed out that under this proposed ordinance the United
States Government could put the Washington Monument on their land, and that
the County of Santa Clara could do the same thing. But the school districts
could not use land for non -classroom facilities unless there were classrooms
on the same land. Clearly, this was illegal discrimination against an agency.
He added that Mr. Gllllo's absence from this meeting, whatever the reason,
was unfortunate. However, he thought this proposed ordinance could be judged
by the Commissioners without Mr. Gillio's aid. He thought the disadvantages
were monstrous, and wondered if there were any advantages. Chairman Carico
stated that Mr. Gllllo told her the only advantage of this ordinance Is that
It would slow dawn the school district from closing the classrooms. Comr
missioner Hillestad pointed out the decist ons to close certain schools in the
Ilaw Town had already been made, so whether this ordinance would have any affect
on those closures was doubtful.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - February 25, 1976
PUBLIC FACILITY ZONING - Continued
Commissl oner Young commented that as far as the taxpayers of this Town are
4 f property.
concerned, the school The Towndileviests levy 350 perabout $1100.$S.50 The on ly$af affect theer $100 of essed prop proposed P P rtw•
ordinance will have is to slow down the return of the tax dollars to the agency
which spent them. Thus, it will create a greater hardship on the taxpayers
of this Town than any other method he could see. The only honest and fair way
for the school district to handle the surplus school sites Is to sell them
and put the money back where it belongs --In the taxpayers' pocket, either
directly or Indirectly. Any attempt at preventing them from selling their
land at market value he thought was a travesty of whatever this country was
set up to be.
Chairman Carlco recognized Mildred Gallo, 25270 La Lanne Court. Mrs. Gallo
asked why the Commission was considering the proposed ordinance since her
friend, Carol Elmberg, who initiated the Idea, no longer believed public
facility zoning would prevent the closure of -the schools. Chairman Carica
replied that the Council had asked them to make a recommendation. Mrs. Gallo
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stated It would be nice to save the schools, bunot at the expense of the
Town's zoning.
Commissl Doer Perkins noted that the Town has been declared an agricultural
preserve. If the draft ordinance is in any way Incompatible with the W1111am-
son Act, the Town would create a terrible situation by adopting it. Staff was
asked to call this to the attention of the City Attorney.
The Commissioners decided it would not postpone making their recommendation.
4W Those present unanimously approved of the follow Ing:
The Planning Commission recommends that the City Council
NOT adopt the revised Public Facilities Draft Ordinance
for the following reasons:
1. It would seriously erode and Impair the Town's present
zoning ordinances. (Contributed by Commissioner Hillestad)
2. Any hypothetical advantages to be accrued therefrom are vastly
outweighed by the obvious disadvantages that will result.
(Contributed by Commissioner Perkins)
3. It does little or nothing more than what the Municipal Code
currently provides. (Contributed by Commissioner Brown)
4. By prohibiting residential zoning, It Is in direct conflict
with the Town's primary zoning. (Contributed by Chairman Carico
5• The Commission questions the compatibility and conflict with
the Williamson Act of this proposed Public Facilities zoning.
(Contributed by Commissioner Perkins)
6. The proposed ordinance, in appearing to discriminate against
the school districts, could conceivably be setting a precedent
towards discriminatory legislation against private Individuals.
( (Contributed by Commissioner Young)
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - February 25, 1976
C. STUDY SESSION: OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE REPORT
Chairman Carl co advised that the Chairman of the Open Space Committee, Car
missloner Schick, had asked her to explain that the Committee's Report Is a
rough draft which all members of the Committee had seen. Since they had no
further corrections of It, Commissioner Schick wished to submit It to the
entire Planning Commission for consideration.
MOTION
Commissioner Young moved, seconded by Commissioner Hl l tested, that the Com-
mission accept the Open Space Committee Report and agenda It for discussion
at a later date. The motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Perkins asked if the Committee got Input from the group, led by
Charles McCandless, who Inventoried open space. Commissl oner Proft, a member
of the Committee, replied that they had been told this Information was not
available, that It had been lost.
Commissioner Perkins commented that the booklet entitled "Open Space In Los
Altos Hills" might be helpful. It was partly Inventory but mostly philosophy.
He would see If he could find a copy of it.
Commissioner Perkins mentioned that when Spangle and Associates were Involved
In the Town's planning considerations, they suggested the Town's open space
plan be modeled after the me they created for Portola Valley. He related
that at the Introspection Night of 1970, the question of open space was
brought up and discussed at some length. A number of people wanted open space
4 for this community, an equal number did not. He observed that In 1970 there
were limited methods for acquiring open space, but that had changed somewhat.
Comnissloner Perkins advised that the Town had adopted a resolution which said
that the Town did not Intend to have a road system that was going to provide
vehicular throughness. The road system was to be only what was adequate for
safety and access.
Commissioner Proft stated the Committee was somewhat frustrated In Its efforts
because It could find no open space plan for the Town, and It knew none of this
history. He thought the Committee had not addressed Itself to open space per
se because their charge was the Palo Alto school site. Chairman Cartoo advised
that the Mayor had asked the Committee to Include open space In general In Its
deliberations. She thought It would be Interesting to have the Committee's
final report on the Introspection Night agenda.
D. NEW BUSINESS: SOLAR ENERGY PRESENTATION
Chairman Carico announced that she had Invited Professor Don Aitken, of San Jose
State University, to make a presentation on Solar Energy at the Commission's
meeting on March 10. He had given a very Interesting and Informative talk on
this topic at the Santa Clara County Policy Planning Commission meeting last
month. Chairman Carl co hoped to publicize this.
D. NEW BUSINESS: BUDGET DISCUSSIONS
Chairman Carl co placed Budget Discussions on the agenda for March 10. The
Commissioners agreed that the more rapidly they approached the topic the better.
Chal rman Carlco noted that each Commissioner had been given the Planning Depart-
ment expenditures for this fiscal year. Commissioner Hillestad asked that the
Commissioners be given a copy of the 1975-76 budget.before the March 10 meeting.
She asked Mr. Russell If he had obtained the costs for the wall maps display
leaves. Mr. Russell did not have the exact costs but expected It to be at
least $500. He advised that in order to hang the leaves In the Chambers, the
door by the window with the Town seal would have to be closed off.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - February 25, 1976
BUDGET DISCUSSION - Continued
Commissioner Proft suggested compiling a list of what will be facing the
Commission In the coming fiscal year, determine the costs of each project,
and set priorities. This list could then be forwarded to the Council
along with their request for appropriation. It was, of course, the Council's
prerogative to change the order of priorities or eliminate projects or even
add to the list. Just as it was the Planning Commission's job to tell the
Council what the priorities were, It was the onus of the Council to determine
If there was enough money to cover the cost of the projects. Chairman Carl co
stated the Commission had submitted a list of priorities last year which the
Council rejected. Commissioner Perkins suggested the Commission also list
what cannot be accomplished with their present resources.
Mr. Russell stated that there was a $4,000 appropriation in the 1974-75 Budget
for the General Plan which was unspent. He suggested that they plan to spend
that money before the end of this fiscal year.
Mr. Pastrof believed that with the end of the moratorium on subdivisions, the
Staff would be flooded with applications. Yet to be drafted are new building
site approval and site development ordinances. There Is also the on-going
problem of non conforming uses.
Commissioner Young pointed out that meant the Staff is one hundred percent
occupied for the next six months to a year. He didn't think the Planning Com-
mission as It Is presently constituted has fheLexporflse.to'•do many of'the
things that were necessary, and the Staff does not have the time. He proposed
that the budget include funds to obtain the services of an independent expert
In town layout design to develop an overall plan of street layout which would
reflect the philosophy of the Town, and to create guidelines for the develop-
ment of the Town through to Its ultimate completion. Thus developers would
know what was expected of them, and a piecemeal, lot by lot development of
the Town would be avoided. Mr. Russell thought It would be very costly and
that unless It were done on a very professional basis, both in planning and
engineering, he would not support it. He commented that there wasn't much
terrain- left In the Town to be developed and that usually the outside expert
doesn't have sufficient knowledge about a tarn to make a plan, and he has to
rely on the staff to provide that Information. Mr. Russell thought the real
problem was In getting people to cooperate and agree on a way to develop their
lands jointly.
Commissioner Hillestad suggested developing a criteria for looking at parcels
presented for subdivision.
Although Chal^man Carlco wantedto have the best professional help, as suggeste
by Commissioner Young, ' : she hesitated to encourage the Idea because she did
not think the Council would approve of the expense. The Council might auth-
orize part time professional help, however, she said.
It seemed to Commissioner Brown that the Town could develop guidelines with the
facilities it has now. He thought if the Planning Commission and the Staff
work together, It could be done inhouse for the most part. There might be a
L facet or two where they might want to hire an outside expert. He would hate to
4w consider a large expense for a broad study by an outside consultant until
when and If they knew precisely what was wanted and that it couldn't be done
by the Commissioners themselves.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - February 25, 1976
BUDGET DISCUSSION - Continued
Chairman Carico asked that the Commissioners submit a list of what each thinks
Is Important for the Commissi on to accomplish next year by the next meeting.
The Staff will present their program for next year then, giving exactly what
they intend to do and what percent of their time it will require. That will
then be stacked up against what the Commissioners feel they would like to see,
and what the resources are.
E. CURRENT BUSINESS: INTROSPECTION NIGHT
Mr. Russell had prepared a breakdown of the cost of preparing the maps and data
listed In the minutes of February 14, 1976. This was placed on the March 10
agenda for study and discussion.
Introspection Night Itself was agended for May 12, 1976.
Mr. Russell shoved the Commission a contour map of the Town, scaled one Inch
equals 400 feet. He suggested using three such maps to show the data the
Commission wanted presented at Introspection Night, rather than cluttering
up one map. One Map would show land that is developed, land left to be
developed, and open space; another the schools and churches; and the third
the water and sewer districts. If the dedicated and recorded pathway easements
could be determined, those could be shown on a one Inch equals 200 feet scale
map of each quarter of the Town which the Staff had. Bar graphs will be used
to show some other data --tor Instance, the total number of homes built each year.
F. ADJOURNMENT: 10:00 p.m.
There being no further business, it was moved, seconded and unanimously carried
that the meeting be adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Donna Pennington
Secretary
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Chal rman Carico
announced
that a short course on Land
Use would
be held
in
San Francisco on
May 14.
Any Commissioner who wanted
to attend,
should
let her
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know.
F. ADJOURNMENT: 10:00 p.m.
There being no further business, it was moved, seconded and unanimously carried
that the meeting be adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Donna Pennington
Secretary
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