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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/14/1976 (2)PL°1P4IdG C' 011! Town of Los Altos Hills 26370 Fremont Road Los Altos Hills, California Minutes of a Regular Heeting 9ednesday, July 14, 1976 Reel 52, Side II, Track I, 646 to End, Side 1, Track II, 001 to 736 Chairman Hahn called the meeting to order at 7:45 P.M. in the Council C-lambers, Town Hall, Los Altos Hills, California. ROLL CALL: Chairman Hahn, Commissioners Rydell, Stewart and Young. Commissioner Perkins arrived several minutes late. Commissioner Carico was absent. Also present: KennTowne Engineer; and,T(win Planner; Alexander Ethel Hopkins, Secretary. Russell, Roll Call was followed with the Pledge of Allegiance. CONSENT CALENDAR: chairman Hahn directed anyone wishing to do so to remove items from the Consent CaleJunen9aremoved, andte consideration. Chairman Hahn removed theioner minutesdoflMayshed the minutes of 12. ssioner Stewart CATION. to a�pproveee the itemsrman leftNonntaedConsentnd eCalei It as ndar,namel,y, the Minutes of April 28 and the Acceptance for filinq of the Tentative Plan for the Lands of Rossi, File #TM 2037-76. notion passed with aye votes from all Commissioners present. ITEMS REMOVED FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATIOM: Regarding the Minutes of May 12, Chairman Hahn noted the blank on page three in place of the name for the gentleman !mho spoke from Exeter, California. He directed the secretary to find out why this was deleted, and to try to find this information on the tape for that meeting. He also called attention to the typographical error at the bottom of nage one. "Pens" should be changed to "Open". Helen Cygnarewicz, who typed the minutes of the May 12 meeting from the tape, said that the gentleman from Exeter, California did not give his name, or if he did, it was impossible to hear on the tape. (Secretary's note.) Commissioner Rydeil noted that on the Minutes of June 9, he had abstained from both votes under the "Approval of Minutes" but was listed as having voted no on the first motion on page one. He directed that the"no"vote be changed to L abstain" because he had been absent for the veeting of "lay 26 (Minutes being fir+ considered). PLANNING COMMISSION PI;IUTES ` July 14, 1976 �r ITErS REP'I1yEO F2R SEPARATE CfSIOFRATIO:I: (Continued) POTION: It was moved by Chairman Hahn and seconded by Commissioner Stewart to approve the Minutes of May 12 as corrected by Commission. tiotion passed with aye votes from Commissioners Rydell, Stewart, Young, and Chairman Hahn. Commissioner Perkins abstained. MOTION: Chairman Hahn moved, seconded by commissioner Stewart, to approve the Minutes of June 9 as amended. Motion passed with dye votes from all commissioners present. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. LAI -IDS OF LA PERA, along Manuella-opposite the entrance td Den§=_11-Prive to the south - opposite 14470 Manuella Avenue to the north, Paul Mowack, Engineer, File TM 62036-76, Request for recommendation of approval of Tentative Map. Mr. Ken Pastrof noted that because of the unique location of the LaPera property, that he would review the potential for subdividing the whole general area, call- ing the attention of the Planning Commission not only to the Lands of LaPera, [ but to surrounding areas - Lands of Scarff,Koblick, Broeckhoff, Fink, and tent rr lots under multiple ownership. (Tent lots, he explained, were lots 30 by 130 feet purchased by people from the City to come down and have picnics.) Lands of Snell and Berger are subdividable, he said, showing by a slide presentation the different configurations possible under subdivisions in the future. Mr. Pastrof noted that the LaPera Subdivision before the Commission is not a neva plan; similar plans had been submitted in the past. He noted some of the problems on this parcel were access, line -of -sight, and flooding from water run-off settling in low-lying areas. The LaPera parcel is a 9 -acre subdivision, li and through slides and drawings noted the proposed lot division, roads and access routes. At this point, Commissioner Perkins asked about confliction figures on the slope density calculations he had received, with t+r. Pastrof assuring him that the official calculations were those signed by the Engineer, Mr. Nowack. Mr. Perkins had further questions, however, on whether easements should be deducted from the gross area. If these easements were deducted, the net acreage �aoul`d allow only eight lots. He asked that this be checked against the new subdivision ordinances when Mr. Pastrof noted that easements for driveways were not deducted from the gross area of the lots. mr, Alex Russell, Town Engineer, continued the discussion on the Lands of LaPera with a discussion on the drainage in the area - noting that this Ne noteathat problem, but one that had been in discussion for seve bubblelbyears. He ed hat a drain existed down Manuella ending in ,. near where the bubble box ends have problerswith heavy storm run-off. Two years ago there was discussion of an underground drain, but the City of Palo Alt( refused to let Los Altos Hilts run a pipe into Clark park to discharge storm run-off. Mr. Russell illustrated the areas with drainage oroblems by showing transparent overlays of the area. He2noted that the amount of drainage in the PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES July 14, 197E LANDS OF LA PEPA: (Continued) area had been measured in a project by Charles 'IcCandless, noting that one- third of the acreage In the proposed subdivision drains toward Adobe Creek, and another third toward Barron Creek. He again mentioned the storm drain along I4anuella. The question is, he said, can the drainage take care of everything coming off that roughly nine acres. A problem exists an the other side of the property because people in that direction !rant drainage out of their back yards. He noted that there is a natural underground flow of •!ater to be dealt with, but that essentially this problem will be dealt with because people do want to develop these lots. Irr. Hahn at this point asked for specific comments from the Commissioners. Mr. Perkins noted that little or nothing had been said about drainage to the west, referring to the second paragraph on page two of the staff report. Ile noted that this gets to the problem of the infamous East Barron Creek. Mr. Pastrof noted the specific concern expressed during the Subdivision Committee meeting on this particular area by Committee and by neighbors. Some discussion followed concerning the tent lots and possible solutions to these small and diversely owned plots of land. It was concluded, however, after vari- ous examples and proposals were advanced for dealing with these tent lots, that these pieces of land were still in private o�rnership and any move by the Town to condemn or appropriate such parcels should be checked with the City Attorney as to legality. Chairman Hahn raised the question of Iter.. it on the list of conditions on the staff report, the dedication of a 20 foot easement on Lot 4 to provide access to Clark Park. Mr. Pastrof stated that this was a condition imposed by the Pathway Committee. Mr. Hahn also inquired about the differing road fees on Condition 20 of the report, noting that this seemed to relate to Condition 10, the pathway request on Kingsley Road. Mr. Pastrof again noted that the Path- way Committee had requested this. Mr. Perkins stated that the actual paths in use were in conflict with those proposed for this subdivilon, and Mr. Russell replied that the present proposal was a part of the Pathway Committee's overall plan for the area. Mr. Hahn at this time opened the meeting to a public hearing. Mr. Har non Brown, corner of Altadena and Manuella, wished to inform the .ommiss on of the t ree areas that were of conmern to him on this proposed subdivison. They were: 1) the conflicting locations of the actual and proposed Kingsley Avenues, 2) that Altadena is not all paved and what paving was done was done by private parties, and 3) the real problem of drainage in the area. Mr. Norman Nelson, corner of Altadena('Iis actual address, he said, is on .anue a), note t e f oo ing pro ems .e an .is nein.. ors, a rga s, have a over an eleven year period and his concern over access roads. Mr. Russell at this point noted that the City Council had authorized a drainage project two years ago. 880,000 had been appropriated for a storm drain, but rights-of-way could not be obtained. He did not know if monies were still' available. -3- PLANNING COFMISSION ill"U(ES July 14, 1876 LANDS 0-r LA PERA: (Continued) proposed development. He called attention to the concern of the residents ever any additional water flowing into East Barron Creek. He also noted that steps should be taken to preserve the 100 feet high trees in the area. Commissioner Young assured him that preserving trees and natural features of the land was written into the subdivision ordinance. an s of d era noted that the developer was aware ui uic waw= r��•�• and as a citizen noted that a similar problem had existed on Adobe Lane. He noted the natter of obtaining easements for storm drain installation Was a matter for the City Attorney to work out. He expressed his uraent wish for sone solution to the matter of obtaining easements. He noted several possible solutions to the problen of storm drainage isposal. rAt apprpximately 9.Oo P.M. Ch an Hahn calleg a ten mipyte recer.) t?r. Perkins, a resident of SneN Lane, steppe oem as a anm nq ommissioner an a resse the CorriISSIW as a ci iten. He challenged a statement made earlier that easements were denied to stop development. He noted that proposed solutions to the storm drainage problem would have been unsightly and that residents granting easements would f:ave had no control on what was built on ( their property. fir' Discussion followed between Mr. Perkins and the Commissioners and staff on actual solutions to the drainage problem. Mr. Richard Oliver, Adobe Lane apologized to Mr. Perkins. It was not his intent to imp y that resi eats had not granted easements to stop development. He did say, however, that the County had put in an eight foot pipe for storm drainage that residents had simply had to learn to live with. Mr. Louis Farasn, bbu w. uana �creeL, Ii , •.--�... ._. _._ _ a resident on property adjoining the La Pera Lan.s,addressed the Commission concerm ng an easement w icn a een o aloe. t. rough a court judgment. He expressed concern his client had on easements, driveway location, and drainage problems resulting from development of this subdivision. Mrs, Zelda Fink, resident at the end of Kingsley Avenue, voiced her concern over has her property was situate in re ation to the proposed subdivision. At pres- ent they had a right-of-way given by Dr. Clark to get off Kingsley, but she was concerned about the type of access they would be able to obtain from the various subdivisions. Mr. Hahn at this point closed the public hearing. Discussion among the Commissioners continued with Mr. Perkins expressing concern on the actual net area of the proposed subdivision, was it to be eight or nine f v lots, the question of whether one of the proposed driveways was public or private and how it should be constructed, the question of maintenance for public areas by the Town, and finally the drainage problems in the area. -4- PLANNING COI USSION MINUTES July 14, 1976 LANDS OF LA PERA: (Continued) Discussion was resolved and concluded with a number of motions added by the Planning Commissioners as conditions to the list of conditions proposed by Staff on the Lands of La Pera. ti)TION: It was moved by Commissioner Perkins and seconded by Chairman Hahn, to that the following statement should be added as Condition 21 the list of conditions on the Lands of LaPera: Drainaqe from the is subdivision is a recognized major problem. A solution proposed be tothe for intohE asthere Branchll BarronrainagCreeke west fromract Lotsd3ai4a95,tandh6 is part of a larger drainage problem which must be solved as soon as possible. Motion passed with aye votes from all Commissioners present. MOTION: It was moved by Commissioner Stewart and seconded by Commissioner list of condi- Rydell that the folioaing conditions be added to the tions cn the Lands of LaPera: Ccnditicn 22: The proposed twenty (20) foot driveway easement to the Creek Lane shall Nowels property from north of Barron be realigned, and the current driveway shall be kept intact and designated a joint driveway easement serving 4aw Lot 2 and the Nowels property. r n The wels property Condition 23: sewer(10)feet I shall not bewless thantent in width. (lotion passed with aye votes from all Commissioners present. NOTION: It was moved by commissioner Perkins and seconded by Chairman Hahn 24: The slope that the following condition be added as Condition in light of the current ordi- density calculations shall be reviewed this subdivision shall conform to these ordinances. nances, and Plotion passed with aye votes from all Commissioners. MOTION: It was moved by Chairman Hahn, seconded by Commissioner Young, that the for the Planning Commission recommend approval of the Tentative Map with the additional Lands of LaPera, File #TI12076-76, as amended input from the Planning Commission to the city Council. conditions and Notion passed with aye votes from all Commissioners. o"OTION: It was moved by commissioner Perkins and seconded by Commissioner Hahn quality Act for to file a Negative Declaration under the Environmental the Lands of LaPera. Notion passed with aye votes from all Commissioners. ` business or old business, Chairman Hahn adjourned the meeting �w There being no neva at 11:24 p.m.. Respectfully submitted, Ethel Hopkins -5-