HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/10/1986PLANNING Ca4uSSICN
( TUC OF ILS ALTOS HILLS
26379 Fremont Road
Ins Altos Hills, California
Wednesday, September 10, 1986
Reel 124, Side I, Tract I, 000-1172
Chairman Siegel called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. in the Town Hall
Council Chambers.
A. IULL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Present: Commissioners Carico, FhTding, Kaufman, Struthers, Yanez, and
Chairman Siegel
Absent: Comissioner Lachenbruch
Staff: Michael Enright, City Engineer; Nancy Lytle, Town Planner;
Leslie Mullins, Secretary
City Council Representative: Concilwumn Dronkert
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Camuissioner Carico asked for clarification of the Final Environmental
Impact Report for the Adobe Creek Lodge, is this a public hearing?
Chairman Siegel explained that the item on the Agenda this evening is to
address if the Final Environmental Impact Report for the Adobe Creek Lodge
and Country Club, prepared by Farth Metrics, is adequate to proceed with
processing. Siegel noted if the FEIR is found to be adequate by the Commission,
the iter will be scheduled for public hearing at a later date and will care
back to Commission for review.
Commissioner Emling questioned why the item is even on the Agenda, noting
the subject property has a pending sale currently.
Chairman Siegel indicated the last hearing we held was quite extensive, since
that time there have been many changes made to the EIR and Staff has made
some supplemental cements (Staff Report dated September 9, 1986), noting
now the Commission has a chance to see if this is adequate. Siegel further
noted we are dealing with an item in process, and we're not ready at this time
to issue a Conditional Use Permit.
MOPICN SECONDED AND CARRIED: Moved by Yanez, seconded by Emling and passed
unanimously to approve the Consent Calendar as follows:
1. Approval of Minutes - August 27, 1986
2. Acceptance of Filing Tentative Map:
a. Lands of Zappettini, File #TM 4-85
Altamont Road
APN: 182-23-004; Gross Acreage; 8.10+; Net Acreage: 7.33+
Requested Number of Lots: 5
Planning Commission Minutes of September 10, 1986
Page Taro
B. CONSENT CALENDAR: (continued)
1 2.b. lards of Corrie, File #TM 3-86
O'Keefe Lane
APN: 175-48-056
Gross Acreage: 12.79+; Net Acreage: 11.37+
Requested Number of Lots: 9
3. Setting Public Hearings for September 24, 1986:
a. Lands of Currie, File #'LM 3-86
Tentative Map and Negative Declaration
b. Lands of Vanchieri, 25333 La Lama Drive
Appeal of Administrative Decision
c. Lands of Zappettini, File #TM 4-85 (continued for further
consideration by Staff and Subcommittee on resukmittal)
Commissioners Siegel and Struthers abstained from approval of minutes of
August 27, 1986.
C. REPORT FROM CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 3, 1986:
Commissioner Yanez reported the City Council approved Special Land Use
Permits for Wubbels, Carneghi and mamnnd; denied Special land Use Pernit
for Tam (due to geologic concerns and 2nd story structure not adequate
for sub3ect property); Adopted New Zoning Ordinance; Mr. Yanez provided
Cammmissioners with a handout of the presentation by Nancy Lytle and Lori
Scott with regard to the new zoning ordinance, and referred to Town Crier
article regarding the new ordinance. Mr. Yanez indicated the City Council
asked that Commission appoint 2 Commissioners to work with Councilwoman
Dronkert and Mayor van Tamelen on a subcommittee regarding time zoning ordinance.
Yanez reported the Council continued the Nuisance Ordinance for further
review; accepted resignation of Councilman Rydell in November and Council-
woman Fohrman in October, noting Council will appoint new members to fill
vacancies.
Commissioner Kaufman informed Commission he was on the Site Development
Committee for Lands of Tam, new residence, noting the main reason for
denial of the Special Land Use Permit by City Council was aesthetics,
noting it is a very visible lot. Kaufman indicated the Council expressed
some concerns to the designer as to relating house to hillside. Kaufman
informed Commission the Subcommittee set up to review the new zoning ordinance,
will look into cleaning up some areas of concern: Dronkert raised concern
over artificially implaced materials (sand - tan bark, etc); Tryon raised
concern over limited NIDA on smaller lots.
Commission appointed Comissicners Carico and Iachenbruch to work with
SubcOwnittee on newly adopted Zoning Ordinance.
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4/ 1. Lands of Collinson, File #VAR 5-86, 27500 Edgerton Road, Request for
4W variance approval to allow encroachment into setback and height
envelope for construction of 15'5" carport.
Planning Carmission Minutes - September 10, 1986
Page Three
D. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. Lands of Collinson (continued)
Ms. Lytle referred to Staff Report dated September 4, 1986, informing
Commission the proposed project is to construct a carport within the
40 ft. setback along Edgerton Fuad, noting the project conforms with
the existing and recently adopted zoning ordinances. Ms. Lytle indicated
that the findings in Section 9-5.1107 (b), necessary to grant a variance
can not be supported with evidence, noting in particular, the first finding
is difficult to support. Staff recommended that the Cammission deny the
request for variance, based on an inability to make the required findings.
The Public Hearing was then opened.
Mr. Tan Sloan, Custom Hare Design, informed Commission the Collinson's
do not presently have a garage or carport, noting the location proposed
is the most economical and feasible, primarily because the rear of the lot
is inconvenient and not accessible for Mrs. Collinson to go frcm garage
to kitchen (groceries, etc). Mr. Sloan informd Co mission the house
is sited difficultly on the site for placement of carport and is most
effective to the front of the house, noting there is not as mach grading
involved for this location and there is existing mature landscaping to
mitigate the structure.
Dr. Collinson, 27500 Edgerton Road, inforned Connussion that his wife has
arthritis and needs to have the carport close and accessible to the kitchen
area.
4 Commissioners questioned Dr. Collinson if he had considered a one car
carport?; another location whichwould not require intrusion into setback
area to the end of the residence?' and impact of structure upon neighbors.
The Public Hearing was then closed.
Commissioner Kaufman expressed concern over the excessive encrcachm t into
the setback area, noting the structure would be very visible and intrusive,
noting he did not feel he could make the six findings required, particularly
when there are alternative locations. Kaufman noted he would more easily
be able to make findings for a variance to the side setback for a small
encrcaclm�t, asking for continuance of the item with the applicants consent
to redesign.
Co missioner Yanez noted he felt the Collinson 's have sham all their needs,
and if he can re -design with a smaller encroachment he would be able to make
findings, asking that the applicant re -design and return.
Cmmissioner Struthers requested the item be denied without prejudice.
Commissioner Carico indicated she preferred the item be continued with
applicants permission, noting she could make finding #2, but not any others.
Commissioner Ending noted he felt staff could assist Dr. Collinsar with
V modification to make his proposal work for him and the Town.
Chairman Siegel expressed concern over the proposed variance, indicating he
would like to see what cores back, before making any recomendations.
Planning Commission Minutes - September 10, 1986
Page Four
D. PUBLIC BEARINGS:
I. Lands of Collinson (continued)
MOTION SEON2IDED AND CARRIED: Moved by Kaufman, seconded by Carico and
Passed unanimously to continue the lands of Collinson, Variance # 5-86,
with applicant's consent for re -design.
E. NEW BUSINESS:
1. Request for Setback Determination, Lands of Heinrich, 27200 Deersprings way
Mr. Enright referred to Staff Report dated September 5, 1986, informing
Commission the Site Development Committee met on August 6, 1986, to consider
a request by the Heinrich's to have their 40.' setback from Byrne Park Lane,
and 30' setback from Deersprings way. Mr. Enright informed Commission
after hearing the presentation from applicant and their building designer,
the Site Development Committee voted to refer the decision to the Commission.
Mr. Enright noted Commissioners Carico and Siegel recommended that the
Heinrich's be given favorable consideration of their request; and the City
Engineer abstained from decision. Mr. Enright noted the question of setback
determination is before Commission so that Commission could determine if
the issue is a matter of setback determination or variance procedure would
be nore appropriate.
Mr. Heinrich, 27200 Deersprings Way, informed Commission the necessity for
setback determination is in the need for solar access to residence.
Camnissioner Kaufman raised some concerns over the house location on top of
]moll, addition of bulk, noting the 40' setback would be taken from Deersprings
u4m re driveway is, noting it seems more appropriate to apply for variance.
Conmissioner Struthers noted there is special aspect with regard to this
proposal, (i.e., solar access) and should be given setback 40' from Byrne Park
and 30' from Deersprings. Struthers questioned if there would be a problem
with height envelope? Mr. Heinrich. noted the height conforms.
Commissioner Carico indicated the Site Development Committee suggested that
they extend out front walk, but this would mean removal of a large oak
and limits sun access.
Commissioner Yanez questioned if solar access is justification for setback
determination.
MOTION SECONDED AND CARRIED: Moved by Yanez, seconded by Carico and passed
by the following roll call vote to approve request for Lands of Heinrich,
forty foot (401) setback shall be from Byrne Park lane and thirty foot (30')
setback shall be from Deersprings Way.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Camnissioners Carico, Enling, Struthers, Yanez and Chairman Siegel
NOES: Commissioner Kaufman
ABSTAIN: None
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Planning CamAssion Minutes - September 10, 1986
Page Five
E. NEW BUSINESS:
2. Interpretation of Section 9-5.703 (e) regarding Day Care and Nurseries
Ms. Lytle referred to Staff Report dated Septenber 4 and 10th, 1986,
with regard to a request mady by California Children's Camunity for
potential Conditional Use Permit to open a Day Care Facility within the
Town. Ms. Lytle indicated Section 9-5.703 (e) allows these facilities
to operate with CUP, however, it includes a provision stating "ten or
fewer children", the proposed facility would be for 200 children. Ms.
Lytle referred to State Requirements for zoning of family day care hares.
Ms. Lytle recomended that the Cannission interpret Section 9-5.703 (e)
to include no restriction on the size of the day care facility.
Camdssioners discussed processing of Conditional Use Permit for Day Care
School as we would for Private Schools within Town.
MDPIQ9 SECONDED AND CARRIED: Moved by Kaufman, seconded by Carico and
passed unanimusly to interpret Day Care Facilities under definition of
Private Schools, processing through Conditional Use Pennit, which would
allow regulation of number of students, access, }ours, etc.
3. Camussioner Kaufman referred to Aorkshop with County Planning Co mission
with regard to design, and siting of large (comercially placed) antennas.
Kaufman noted this does not directly affect Ips Altos Hills, but in the
future we may be asked for placement of cellular telephone antenna,
and there will be discussion over open space and park land.
420 F. OLD BUSINESS:
1. Request for Preliminary Review of Develognent Concept and potential
variance request on Lot #7, Horseshoe lane (George Dai)
Ms. Lytle referred to Staff Report dated August 21, 1986 inforning Commission
Int #7 is currently undeveloped and is a highly constrained site due to
an average slope of 37.98, LUF of .39 and limited potential for access.
Ms. Lytle noted the applicant has submitted sore concept plans for
preliminary review and he would appreciate feedback from the Camnission
on the following issues: Minimum Parking Requirements; and Access.
Ms. Lytle inforred Ca[¢nission the property would be subject to new ordinance
and would require a Conditional Developaent Pernit since the IUF for the lot is
less than .5.
Chainren Siegel infonred Camussion this is a Preliminary Review, with
potential for variance request, noting the applicant would like to discuss
his concept. Siegel further noted the Cartnission, shall take no fornal
action and are free to change their mind when application is filed with Town.
Mr. George Dai, Horseshoe Lane, inforned Camrission access to the lot is
only as proposed on plans, noting the previous property owner tried to gain
access along Arastradero Road and was turned down. Mr. Dai inforred Camussion
he has spoke with adjacent neighbors regarding my proposal and will have to
meet applicable ordinances, noting the main residence is not a problem
/ but the garage will be due to extrane slope of site, therefore I feel it
1r must encroach into setback and height envelope, therefore requiring a variance.
Camussicners, Staff and applicant discussed the difficulty of access to the
subject site, steepness of lot and allowable developre t area, noting the
Planning Commission Minutes - September 10, 1986
Page Six
F. OLD BUSINESS:
[ 1. Lands of Dai (continued)
Proposed residence is very bulky for subject site.
Mr. Bob Latta, 27061 Horseshoe Lane, adjacent neighbor, informed
Camnission he has reviewed plans prepared by Mr. Dai, and is confident
that the residence will be unobtrusive, as Mr. Lai is an architect as
well as a neighbor of the proposed lot. With regard to access, Mr. Latta
expressed concern of danger on Arastradero Road; and use of frontage
driveway up Horseshoe which may be a possibility, noting this would keep
the structure closer to my property, asking the garage be kept low profile
so not to interefere with views.
With regard to access on easement, Mr. Dai indicated he uses the access
easement only for pool maintenance, etc.
Mr. Enright informed Commission the easement is primarily for access to
Lot #8, and would require Mr. Nakajima's approval, noting also there is
no easement over Lot #8, and world make Mr. Dai's lot even more non -conforming
by reducing net area, and expressed concern over septic systems for the three
lots.
Cmwdssioners, Staff and applicant discussed further access wer existing
easements, La Cresta access; restrictiveness due to septic system,
slope steepness and allowable development area, asking applicant to re -think
4 his proposal taking into consideration all of these constraints.
2. Final Environmental Lnpact Report for the Adobe Creek Iodge and
Country Club
Chairman Siegel informed Commission and public, the item before us this
evening is a Final Envirommantal Impact Report, noting we had a good public
hearing last time, and Earth Metrics was to have taken our comments and make
the subject Final EIR, staff has indicated the Cammission should see if the
FEIR is adequate to set a public hearing and then pass on to the City Council
who will also hold a public hearing and then we would proceed with the
Conditional Use Permit. Chairman Siegel noted let's have Commission make
review and comment on the FEIR and then we will have public speak, noting
however, the public will get another chance to speak at the scheduled
public hearing with both Commission and City Council,
Commissioner Carico expressed concern that the FEIR very inadequately addresses
concerns raised at the last public hearing, noting the responses made by
Earth Metrics with regard to mitigation are unacceptable.
Comnissioner Kaufman expressed there are two major environmental impacts: 1)
traffic and 2) noise, noting he did not feel that the report adequately
addresses traffic along Moody Road (ie., Hidden Villa Master Plan, peak load
hours, flow hours); with regard to Noise impact from traffic, Mr. Kaufman
noted it was computed incorrectly and world like to see a combined noise
index.
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Ms. Lytle informed Commission tonight the Commission is to cement on their
comments made in reference to the last public hearing, and to decide whether
or not we should set a public hearing and recommendation to City Council.
Planning Ccam-fission Minutes - September 10, 1986
Page Seven
F. OID BUSINESS:
2. Final Environmental Impact Report (continued)
Cmmissioner Emling expressed concern over the validity of the documnt,
noting he felt it very sloppily written; traffic and parking concerns
are not adequately addre;sed; questioned how many families are living
on the property presently?
Chairnan Siegel again stressed that the Commission is to decide whether
this FEIR is adequate for us to set a public hearing, noting along with
the FEIR frau Faith Metrics, Ms. Lytle has prepared comments to mitigate
sae of the issues not in the FEIR, noting this documnt helps us decide
whether the document can adequately deal with the application, noting it
does not deal with the Commission allowing any use of the property, it
deals with traffic, noise,etc. If Cmmission decides it is inappropriate
to use as a club, then this all becomes irrelevant. Me, Lytle also noted
that if we decide this is completely inadequate, the Town would have
to go into litigation withthe preparer of the report and would have to
re -capture the costs through legality.
Commissioner Kaufman then indicated, the EIR is not an approval of the
Project, it is in place of a Negative Declaration (we've hired a firm
to docu:ent what the impacts are)- we hope this reflects our concerns,
and can quantify the environmental issues, noting Cmmission should be
prepared to document why this documnt is right or not right at the public
hearing. Kaufman noted if we wish to dispute a finding made, we must have
factual information, expressing concern to public, this is not the place
to stop a project, but at the Conditional Use Permit application process.
Cmmissicner Struthers indicated the document is not readable, noting the
public hearing she had asked for charts, where are they?
Cmmissioner Yanez indicated that there are still questions which may never
be answered, noting he does not believe that by blocking the EIR is the right
thing to do, and indicated he did not feel another consultant would do a
better job, that would only delay the process. Yanez expressed concern
that traffic and noise issues are still not adequately addressed, noting
there is no comprehensive analysis. Yanez indicated the EIR should be
forwarded to City Council with individual statements, that by hashing this
out ever and over again at Cmmission level does not make sense, and feel
we are ready to move this document on to the City Council without another
public hearing.
Mrs. Sherrie E mling, 11853 Murietta lane, informed Oc mission there are 9
rental units on the subject property existing presently; raised concerns over
traffic, noise, parking (all weather vs. dry weather) , and the creek.
Mrs. Judith Zurbriggen, 11800 Marietta Lane, informed Commission the responses
made by Earth Metrics are not adequate, raising concern over development area,
other large property in the vicinity which could be further subdivided not
included in analysis, and increased usage of Hidden Villa every weekend for
horse shows.
4W Mr. Gay Pang, 12025 Moody Springs Court, questioned if all neighbors were
notified with regard to Final EIR? Staff responded yes. With regard to
the EIR, Mr. Pang informed Ccamission, he felt that staff should summarize
the sumaary made by Earth Metrics, an executive summary which would show where
the inadequacies are, noting the cmments made by Envirormmntal Design Committee
Planning Canission Minutes - September 10, 1986
Page Eight
F. OLD BUSINESS:
2. Final Environmental Impact Report (continued)
were not addressed. Mr. Pang indicated he felt the EIR did not address
traffic adequately, feeling it should say the increase in traffic will
be 1448.
Mr. Steve Hunton, 11991 Marietta Lane, informed Commission the issues
of an EIR are to provide information to Planning Department in order to
make judgement on: 1) traffic, 2) hydrology, 3) impact on neighbors;
and 4) siting of proposed use.
Ms. Lytle asked to interrupt the proceedings, this document does not address
those issues, they will be addressed in the Staff Report prepared for the
Conditional Use Permit at a later date.
Mr. Steve Hunton, indicated there are many areas which the EIR glosses over,
i.e., pedestrian/equestrians and bicyclists. Have the consultants ever
used a traffic counter, I've never seen one; and questioned what has
happened to the Master Plan Update?
Ms. Lytle informed public, the Housing Element is a part of our work
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and rogram which will be considered firstly by Commission and Council,
other General Plan Amendments will Tollow.
Mr. Steven Gaither, Menlo Park, informed Conmission he is the individual
who has the property under control from Mr. Eellucci, informing Ccumission he has read
the EIR, noting he is under the impression we got what we paid for, indicating
there is a document and it's adequacy is questionable. Mr. Gaither informed
Commission his proposal is a new concept, different that what was proposed
by Mr. Hellucci; and there is ample time for neighbors to help with
coordination of consultantsU etc. With regard to stopping the procedings
on this application, Mr. Gaither informed Commission Mr. Hellucci feels
that he is entitled to completion of the process.
Mr. Pang asked that his coo ents previously made should be included in
public hearing, but should not be included as part of the EIR.
Ms. Lytle explained the certification process: Per CEQA Guidelines: 1)
EIR completed and in compliance with CEQA guidelines; and 2) reviewed by
Agency, decision making body did review and recommend on the report
prior to making any decision on the project.
MOTION SECONDED AND WI'hmRAM: Moved by Raufman, seconded by lhuling and
withdrawn to Agendize the Final Environmental Impact Report for the Adobe
Creek Lodge and Country Club for October 8, 1986 Agenda.
MOTION SECONDED AND WITHDRAWN: Moved by Yanez, seconded by Kaufman and
withdrawn, that the Planning Commission finds the Final Environmental Impact
Report for the Adobe Creek lodge and Country Club acceptable and forward
to City Council, noting there are significant impacts and the City Council
mitigate issues.
`y MOTION WITHDRAFLI DUE TO LACK OF SECOND: Moved by Yanez, to have no
certification of document, Final Environmental Impact Report for Adobe Creek
Lodge and Country Club.
The Final Davi ronnental Impact Report will return on a later Agenda as a
Public Hearing after further review by Earth Mettics and Staff.
Planning Coamission Minutes - September 10, 1986
Page Nine
3. Counissioner Siegel will take Cmunissioner Iachenbruchs place for
the September 17, 1986 City Council Meeting.
7 4. Commissioner Struthers will take Site Development Committee on
October 3rd with Cmmissioner Carico.
5. Discussion over time and day of Site Developament Camtittee Meetings:
Crnmissioner Emlmg indicated he would be able to attend more meetings
if they were held in afternoon, from 3:00 to 5:00 P.M.
Cmmissioner Yanez indicated that he too Mould be available more often.
Camdssicners Struthers and Caricm concurred.
Staff will arrange to hold Site Development Committee Meetings on
Tuesdays, afternoon 2:00 - 5:00 P.M.
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There being no further new or old business, the meeting was adjourned at
11:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Leslie Mullins
Planning/Engineering
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