HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/14/1988PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED MEETING
Monday, November 14, 1988
6:30 P.M.
Chairman Kaufman called the meeting to order at 6:40 p.m. in the Town Hall
Council Chambers
A. ROLL CALL ANDN PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Present: Commissioners Carico, Emling, Jones, Noel, Patmore, Stutz
and Chairman Kaufman
Absent: None
Staff: Bill Ekern, Director of Public Works; Sally Zeff, Planning
Technician; Leslie Mullins, Planning Technician
B. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. LANDS OF QUARRY HILLS, FILE #TM 1-87, Stonebrook Drive, Continued
public hearings from November 1, 1988 Planning Commission Meeting,
for consideration of General Plan Amendment, Zoning Ordinance
Amendment, Pre -zoning, and apaproval of Tentative Map for a 43 -lot
subdivision on 358 acre site
Ms. Zeff referred to staff report dated November 10, 1988 informing
Commission this is a continued public hearing to considers a request
for certification of the EIR, General Plan Amendment, Zoning Ordinance
Amendment, Pre -zoning, and approval of tentative map for a 43 -lot sub-
division. Ms. Zeff informed Commission staff has presented the most
current recommended zoning ordinance amendments, noting there have
been no changes in any of the proposals since the last meeting, but
the package prsented at the last meeting did not include previously
presented proposed amendments. Ms. Zeff noted staff recommends the
following: Staff has reviewed the propposed ordinance prepared by the
Planning Commission Chairman, as an example of how the formulas would
work under the proposal, the girures for the Quarry Hills project un-
der the proposed are attached to the November 10th staff report. Ms.
ZEff noted the following general recommendations concerning zoning or-
dinance amendments are as follows: 1) The subdivision ordinance
should not use definitions found only in the zoning ordinance, if a
zoning district requres a certain minimum lot size, that requirement
is not negated by the minimum lot size requirements of the subdivision
ordinance; 2) Staff agrees that a zoning regulations should be adopted
allowing the Town to use the zoning ordinance to accomplsih what Con-
servation Easmeents alone can now be used for. This would be ac-
complished byt he proposed Conservation Combining Zone; and 3) For-
mulas and definitions should be consistent throughout the Zoning Or-
dinance. Ms. zEff recommended that the Commission define the goals to
be achieved by a zoning ordinance amendment, and staff will prepare an
ordinance for the Commissioner's review consistent with these goals.
4.
Commissioner Jones noted he was not present at the last public hearing
but has been in to Town Hall to listen to the tape from the meeting
and will partipate in discussion this evening, noting he had previous-
ly met John Vidovich at a campaign coffee meeting na noted he did not
contribute to his campaign.
Chairman Kaufman noted he also met previously with Mr. Vidovich on
this application to discussion his proposals. Chairman Kaufman in-
formed Commissioners of the procedures the Town is to take on the sub-
ject application, noting one Commissioner has suggested that we dis-
cussion items in sequence and at each level of discussin continue on
and not vote on each item until all discussion has taken place.
Commissioner Patmore suggested the Commission come up with a list of
choices: 1) Jet choice, 2nd choice, et.c, on the revised zoning or-
dinance amendments and general plan amendments.
Commissioner Emling noted this is good direction, and suggested set-
ting a time limit on discussion of items and this meeting.
MOTION SECONDED AND CARRIED: Moved by Emling, seconded by Carico and
passed unanimously to set adjournment time of this pulbic hearing to
be 9:30 P.M. or as close as possible.
1. General Plan Amendment/Zoning Ordinance Amendment - Commissioners
discussed the proposed area of OSR, noting the need for lines to be
drawn accurately to reflect the proposed OSR area. Commissioners
noted that the bottom most lot should not be a lot as it will be used
for flume area, and that lots 25 & 26 should also be treated as larger
lots further up the hill. It was noted that the Open Space Conserva-
tion Area as referred to in the General Plan Amendment, is shown as
OSP and should be OSR. Chairman Kaufman referred to staff reports of
November 10th & 145th, noting he has prepared alternative for VLD, as
well as Commissioner Patmore, OSE zoning district which speaking to
minimum lot size, but not MDA -MFA, noting it looks similar to his for-
mula except everything is X by 20, noting staff has a minimum lot size
of 10 and mine has minimum lot size of 10, but has equations for MDA -
MFA which would be less than that allowed by staff. Chairman Kaufman
noted further lots 1-24 should be elmininated, based on protection of
ridgellnes as per General Plan and access to Olive Tree and Ravens -
bury. Commissioner Jones suggested a numerical limit as per the Town
of Woodside, instead of an MDA based on the size of the land, which
would keep views protected and more reasonable. Commissioner Patmore
suggested we recommend the following to the Council: 1) No develop-
ment on lots 1-24; 2) County numbers be used; or 3) Kaufmans MDA fig-
ures. Commissioner Carico noted she would like to go with County fig-
ures for hillside development as recommended by Patmore.
Ms. zeff again referred to November 10th staff report, noting she
recommends that the Commission define the goals to be achieved by a
zoning ordinance amendment and then staff will prepare an ordinance
for the Commissioners to review which would be consistent with those
goals and return at the next meeting.
2. Tentative Map - Commissioners discussed the proposed development
of the property, noting the ridgeline areas should not be developed,
noting the Town has common practice that areas over 30% slope be in-
cluded into Conservation Easment, noting it is reasonable to say that
the ridgeline not be built on, leaving the portion of the property at
the Quarry area developable. Commissioners noted there would be por-
tion of the proposed lots which would be within two different zoning
areas. Commissioners discussed Vesting Tentative Map process vs.
Tentataive Map processing, and then began review of the proposed con-
ditions of approval.
Mr. Ekern informed Commission we should refer to the applicant's
engineer for discussion over the deed which connects Ravensbury Avenue
to the back of the subject property, noting we need the City At-
torney's interpretation, as Mr. Vidovich does not own the land and
would have to receive a grant deed.
Commissioner Stutz noted she felt stronglyu that Ravensbury, Olive
Tree and Stonebrook should all access the development as proposed by
staff. Commissioner Patmore noted she concurs with Mr. Farewells'
comments recommending that his recommendations be included into land
and easement dedications.
Commissioners and staff discussed slope easement dedications, noting
@ that 1f cut and £111 limits go beyond the 60 right-of-way this ease-
ment will allow grading for installation of the roadway into the lots
and thus Town could maintain, Mr. Ekern noted most of this easement
area is wihtin the three turns and not within the road right-of-way.
Mr. Ekern noted Exhibits C & D should be included into the conditions
of approval. Staff and Commission discussed areas for Conservation
Easements as listed in the Tentative Map Conditions of approval as
well as on Exhibits, noting the applicant has marked up a plan which
shows his requested areas of Conservation Easements. Commissioners,
staff and pathway committee discussed proposed pathway easements and
improvements as described in the October 26th staff report. Commis-
sioners discussed bike lanes included into the right -o£ -way.
Commissioners discussed pump stations for sewers, responsibilities
thereof, and possibility of combining with McCulloch Subdivision, and
connecting into the Dawson subdivision through the Town owned lands.
Commissioners asked for further review by the City Engineer on the
roadways designed and their safety; further review and report on the
undergrounding of creek, and its maintenance.
Mrs. Jean Struthers, 13690 Robleda Road, noted the importance of ac-
cess to the creek areas for wildlife, need to restore riparaian
vegetation and habitat.
C. ADJOURNMENT:
This meeting was continued to November 30, 1988 at 7:00 p.m. for fur-
ther discussion, at 10: 20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Leslie Mullins
Planning Technician