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Minutes of a Regular Meeting
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Wednesday,
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28,1993, 7:30 P.M.
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1. R01 r CALL AND IIEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers
at Town Hall.
Present: Chairman Pahl, Commissioners Cheng, Ellinger, Schreiner,
Sinunu & Stutz
Absent: Commissioner Comiso
Staff: Linda Niles, Town Planner; Lam Lonberger, Planning Secretary
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Persons wishing to address the Commission on any subject not on the agenda are invited to do so
now. Please note, however, that the Commission is not able to undertake extended discussion or
take action tonight on non-agendized items. Such items will be referred to Staff or placed on the
agenda for a future meeting.
Commissioner Ellinger requested that the Eagle Scout Project be added as an urgency
item to the Public Hearings.
Motion seconded and passed by consensus to add the urgency item to the Public
Hearings as item 5.4.
3. CONSENT CALENDAR
Items appearing on the Consent Calendar are considered routine and will be adopted in one motion,
except for any item removed for separate consideration elsewhere on the agenda. The Chairman will ask
the Commission and the audience for requests to remove these items.
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4. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL 21,1993
4.1 Planning Commission Representative was Commissioner Ellinger. In the previous
Housing Element meeting, Commissioner Ellinger discussed the City Council meeting.
Items discussed were consent calendar items and the Design Guideline Draft.
Commissioner Ellinger felt that there were several items not addressed in the guideline;
pathways, basements, fences and Jones' law, to name a few.
Commissioner Ellinger had prepared a letter to the Council regarding basements which
was in conjunction with Lands of Hall. In response to his letter, he received a letter
from Council member Dauber explaining her thoughts regarding basements, what was
legitimate and what was abusive, and asking questions about patios and the sunken
excavated area around them that result in an amount. Commissioner Ellinger
submitted a draft of a possible basement interpretation which will be discussed under
New Business.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
5.1 LANDS OF RAFFETTO, 14380 Manuella Road; A request for a Site
Development Permit for a Pool, Pool House, Tennis Court, Garage, Landscape
and Driveway Relocation (continued from April 14, 1993 for a completed
Landscape Plan).
Ms. Niles stated there were a couple of questions that the Commission had regarding
the designations on the map, the building setback line in particular. She had placed in
the Commissioner's box a copy that shows the portion of the map that the Raffetto lot
was on and also the Owner's Certificate wording which has no mention of restrictions,
limitations or requirements for the Building Setback Line. The Staff could not find
anything that said what was to conform to the building setback line. Additionally, they
could not find any Conditions of Approval since this map was approved in 1954. Ms.
Niles reviewed this with the City Attorney and all the easements mentioned in the
Owner's Certificate that state "no structures of any kind" refer to the overhead
easements for telephone lines, utility easements, and equestrian easement (5' path) that
was always put on properties. The building setback line was not clearly defined as to
what standards had to be met. It was the City Attorney's interpretation that the Town
could apply the Town's standards . They interpreted the building setback line to mean
the setback for buildings and structures, like the house, garage, pool house, cabana or
any similar structure or a building, rather than things like tennis courts or pools. She
suggested that the Raffettos may have information regarding how many other
properties in the subdivision have complied with this interpretation of the setback line.
Ms. Niles stated that one of the Commissioners did further research and found
E information on the intent of the building setback line.
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Commissioner Schreiner stated that she had investigated the Pinecrest subdivision,
#1286 dated 1954. She had concerns regarding this building setback and exactly what it
meant. She had contacted Marjorie Evans, an attorney who lives on DeBell, who had
the final subdivision report. Ms. Evans stated that at least half to two thirds of the lots
in this subdivision have building setbacks varying from 75 ' to 100' and were put on
specifically for sanitary purposes which Commissioner Schreiner assumed meant septic
tanks and leach lines. The conditions read "that the setback lines are put on in
accordance with the subdivision ordinances and setbacks are to be kept free and clear of
all buildings and hard surfaces" which in this case would mean tennis courts,
swimming pools, etc. She believed that the Raffettos were not on septic but on sewer so
her question was, legally, do the Raffettos have to comply with the 75' setback since
they are on sewers and able to comply with the current setback of 40'.
The Commission discussed the 75' setback requirement and felt that if they had the
information that this setback was required only for septic tanks, they should update
where there were sewers and only require the standard 40' setback in front and 30' on
sides and back. It was discussed whether the Planning Commission had the authority
to change the setback requirements. Ms. Niles stated that the City Attorney felt it was
not inappropriate to apply the Town's standards to this project and with Commissioner
Schreiner's finding, the City Attorney may feel even stronger regarding this opinion.
Ms. Niles will look into this further, however, she stated that the application before
them met the standards for the lot.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Mike Raffetto, 14380 Manuella Road, applicant, discussed the project and plantings. He
stated that currently they are on septic, however, they plan to connect to sewer. He
asked the Commission for approval of the project with the added condition regarding
connecting to sewer.
Commissioner Ellinger asked Mr. Raffetto if the setback requirements were changed,
abandoning the 75' restriction, would he be redesigning this project and resubmitting a
different design. He answered no.
Chairman Pahl stated that one of the concerns was that some of his neighbors have
tennis courts and chain link fences that go up 6' to 7' and are relatively close to Manuella
and Fremont. He had asked Mr. Shaw what would be the effect if they were to drop the
tennis court by 18" to 24" and use the graded dirt to form a mound or berm around the
tennis court so you would not need as high a chain link fence to meet the 6' request.
Mr. Raffetto stated that if you consider the elevation of the basic residence as it stands
now, the intent of the design was to lower the court 18" across the front.
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Peter Shaw, Landscape Architect, stated that he was confident the trees would screen
the court and you would not see the black vinyl chain link fence.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Commissioner Schreiner felt that the project was a very chopped up configuration. She
would prefer to see the project clustered rather than spread out.
Commissioner Stutz would like to see a vine on the fence by the tennis court. She was
concerned with the size of trees and felt that they were not fast growers. She would like
to request a few more evergreen trees. She also felt that it would be good to connect
some of the structures.
Chairman Pahl stated that they do not have architectural reviews and he felt that they
did not have the right to impose their view of this development with regard to
configuration and placement of the project.
Ms. Niles stated that the way the plan was drawn, it appears spread out, however, there
is actually 10' from the garage and the cabana, 7' to 7 1/2' between the cabana and the
pool, only 25' from the tennis court fence to the edge of the cabana deck and a
maximum of 28' from the future expansion of the house to the garage. She felt that it
i may be that those areas are not as large as they appear on the Site Plan and they will not
appear to be as stretched out all over the project.
Commissioner Ellinger stated that he was not troubled by the layout. He did question
how this project would look like in winter. He could not tell if this was mitigated all
year round or mitigated only spring, summer and fall. He would like to see this look
good year round.
Chairman Pahl requested a green or black vinyl on fencing.
MOTION SECOND AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Ellinger and seconded by
Commissioner Cheng to approve the application with a condition requiring connection
to sewer, black or dark green vinyl coating on all fencing and planting around the
tennis court fencing on street side.
AYES: Chairman Pahl, Commissioners Simmu, Stutz, Cheng & Ellinger
NOES: Commissioner Schreiner
ABSENT: Commissioner Comiso
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar for May 5,1993
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5.2 LANDS OF REDDY, 11011 Magdalena Road; A request for a Site
Development Permit for a New Residence and Swimming Pool (continued from
February 24, March 24 and Planning Commission Site Analysis of April 14,1993).
Ms. Niles stated that she had nothing further to add to the Staff Report.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Mr. Sena Reddy, 11011 Magdalena Road, applicant, wanted to thank the Commission
for their participation at the Site Analysis meeting and felt they have incorporated their
recommendations that were made and have resubmitted plans. He was available for
questions.
Commissioner Schreiner asked how much grading was eliminated and what was the
length of the eaves.
Bill Kull, Giuliani and Kull, Inc., 20431 Stevens Creek Blvd., Cupertino, stated that they
eliminated 300 yards of cut and export because of the relocation of the wall. The length
of the eaves will be 2'.
i CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Commissioner Sinunu felt that there was no further discussion needed.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Sinunu and seconded
by Commissioner Cheng to approve with recommended Conditions of Approval.
AYES: Chairman Pahl, Commissioners Ellinger, Schreiner, Simmu, Stutz &
Cheng
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Comiso
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar for May 5,1993
5.3 LANDS OF FLING, 12585 Miraloma Way; A request for a Site Development
Permit for a New Residence.
Commissioner Cheng stepped down from the hearing due to close proximity to the
project.
Ms. Niles introduced this item stating that the proposal was for the demolition of an
existing one story residence and construction of a new two story single family dwelling
unit. The house is proposed to be sited in the same location as the existing one story
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single family home. The building footprint is proposed to be expanded out towards the
east and up for a second story. The Commission was provided a model of the project.
The project was well within the allowed development area. The house is proposed with
two stores above grade and a 633 sq. ft. basement area containing a media sound room,
bar and bathroom which is included in the floor area calculations. An additional 772 sq.
ft. is located more than 6' underground which is exempt from floor area calculations.
The maximum height of the proposed structure from natural or finished grade is 25',
and the overall lowest to highest height is 35'.
The house has been designed to meet the ordinance standards for grading, height limits,
basements, setbacks, MFA and MDA. The proposed two story residence is located well
down hill from the three homes on the north and west of the site. Existing vegetation
along the south east property boundary helps screen the proposed dwelling from this
particular house. Additional planting may need to be required on the front slope of the
house.
The Town's geologist has reviewed the geotechnical study for the project and has
recommended approval. The new dwelling will connect to sewer. The drainage and
grading has been reviewed by the City Engineer. Final grading and drainage plans will
be required to be submitted and approved by the City Engineer prior to issuance of any
(� building permits. The Fire District had no additional conditions.
The Pathway Committee recommended dedicating a 10' path easement along the
southern boundary from the Lands of Cheng to Miraloma and then along Miraloma to
Miraloma's northern boundary. This path will provide the missing link in a path that
will connect Voorhees Drive and Summerhill Avenue. The path should be Type IIB and
should be 5' and meander within the 10' easement. Materials used to include header
boards and compacted Stevens Creek crushed fines. All plantings and sprinklers would
be 5' away from the pathway.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Ray Rooker, 25685 Fernhill Drive, architect, discussed the project stating that this was
less than a one acre site cut in half by the cut and fill nature of the terrain. Their intent
was to utilize a very small footprint so they could utilize as much of the site as possible.
The footprint of the living space is approximately 3,000 sq. ft. with a three car garage
and master bedroom in the attic space so they utilized a high pitch roof.
David Gielow, 12595 Miraloma Way, neighbor, supports this project and would urge
the Commission to approve.
Commissioner Ellinger, when asking Mr. Gielow if there were any improvements he
would suggest with regards to the project, was answered no.
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060 CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Ms. Niles, in response to Commissioner Schreiner's question, stated that Carol Gottleib,
Jeff Peterson and herself walked the site and it was their feeling that the planting on the
south property line was actually inside the property line a little further and even strays
off into the lot further so there is adequate room to accomplish the pathway between the
trees and the property line which would be a native path.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Ellinger and seconded
by Commissioner Schreiner to approve with the recommended Conditions of Approval.
AYES: Chairman Pahl, Commissioners Stutz, Ellinger, Schreiner & Simmu
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Cheng
ABSENT: Commissioner Comiso
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar for May 5, 1993.
5.4 URGENCY ITEM -Eagle Scout Project presented by Scott Ellinger (Request
for display of historic farm equipment at Town Hall).
Commissioner Ellinger stepped down from the hearing.
Ms. Niles stated that this project was being undertaken by Scott Ellinger and some other
scouts in the troop. He provided a plan for the Commission. This project has two
phases; the first phase is the phase that the Boy Scouts are trying to accomplish
themselves before they leave for college. This was the reason for placing it on the
agenda as an urgency item. The Council reviewed this at their meeting of April 21, 1993
and Scott requested that the Council consider waiving the fees and deposits required for
the project, which they did do. Scott also asked that the Council consider contributing
the cost that would be required for the first phase to do the improvements for the
fencing and the gravel underneath the farm equipment over by the Heritage House.
The Council was unable to approve contributing the cost due to the current budget
situation, however, suggested that Scott try to obtain contributions wherever he could.
The direction from Council was that if Scott could show he was able to obtain the
funding, that the project be routed through the Planning Commission because the
second phase of the project being accomplished by the Historical Society was actually a
shed for other equipment that they want to put on the site as well. That larger project
does need to come through the Planning Commission; the farm equipment exhibit does
not but since the projects are together, the Council wanted the Planning Commission to
look at the site and see where both might be placed and make an appropriate decision
on this one, understanding that the shed will return in the future.
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OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Scott Ellinger, 28520 Matedero Creek Lane, discussed his phase of the project as shown
on the plan as the shaded area. He further discussed the placement of the farm
equipment, being careful not to place any item on the pathways. He felt that the farm
equipment would compliment the Heritage House.
Commissioner Stutz asked what plans did Scott have regarding weed control and if he
had looked at any other location that is not as near the Heritage House or in the area
where the Town meetings and/or other social gatherings have been occupied by the
public.
Scott Ellinger, in answer to the first question, stated that his plan for weed control
would be to lay down a layer of black plastic, covered with a crushed rock surface. In
answer to the second question, he stated that he had looked at other areas which he felt
would be obscure and felt that part of the intent of the project would be to make the
equipment visible. They plan to put a rail fence around the farm equipment. Regarding
funding, he had received a pledge for the ground cover and there had been an article in
the Town Crier pointing out that there was funding still needed for the project.
Further discussion ensued regarding placement of farm equipment, pathway easement,
4, delay in approval risking completion of the project and relocation of pathway. Another
�r suggestion would be the construction of the pathway easement with the fencing going
up, however, there would have to breaks in the fencing in the pathway easement until
such time as the lot merger is completed.
Ms. Niles stated that in order to approve this project this evening in view of this project
obstructing the pathway easement, there would have to be a condition stating that the
farm equipment display area be approved at this time and at such time as if the
pathway easement is not changed and a pathway is required to be constructed, a new
location would be required to be selected and constructed for the equipment.
Linda Swan, 13190 Burke Road, President of the Historical Society, discussed the
location, visibility and flat area of the proposed project.
Rick Ellinger, 28520 Matedero Creek Lane, discussed the project, the urgency of
construction before Scott and other scouts leave for college, delay in commencement of
specific construction and even the decision of specifically where to put it but
recommended to approve the concept and leave the decision of the specific placement
to the Commission and Staff so the project could be started.
Further discussion involved putting the farm equipment display fence and the farm
equipment in the setback, desire to keep the two displays in the same approximate area,
an appropriate area for the project and still have the use of the Heritage House for
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4 Town functions. The City Engineer had located a map of the section in question and
stated that it does not show a pathway easement, however, there is a drainage
easement. He pointed out that this was Town property and Town property is public
property and therefore does not need a public easement across public property. In light
of this information and knowing that they will be merging these lots (Heritage House
and Town Hall) there was probably another place that they could construct a native or a
IIB path that would be appropriate. It was felt that there may be something that the
City Engineer could design to accommodate the path users. Commissioner Stutz would
not be in favor of the proposed area as shown.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Chairman Pahl and seconded by
Commissioner Sinunu to approve the concept only of a fenced but open area around the
Heritage House, the specific location to be discussed with Staff and the applicant's
agent. This will be submitted to the Council and the actual location could be
determined by Council at their May 5th meeting. The Commission will provide input
to Staff which will be provided to the Council for the May 5th meeting.
AYES: Chairman Pahl, Commissioners Schreiner, Sinunu, Stutz & Cheng
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Ellinger
�I/ ABSENT: Commissioner Comiso
Chairman Pahl stated that the applicant's representative will need to work with Staff
regarding the location.
6.1 Basement Ordinance
Commissioner Ellinger prepared a handout regarding basements ordinance. Chairman
Pahl suggested before the information goes to Council that the City Attorney revise the
document format.
OLD BUSINESS
7.1 Discussion of the Housing Element of the General Plan will continue on May
12th at 6:00 p.m.
7.2 A schedule of the General Plan Elements was completed by the Planning
Commission and will be placed on future agendas as of May 26,1993 agenda.
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8. APPROVAL OF THE MI=S OF APRIL 14 1993
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Schreiner, seconded
by Commissioner Ellinger and passed by consensus to approve the Minutes of April 14,
1993.
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9.1 LANDS OF CARSE, 27125 Taaffe; A request for a Site Development Permit for a
Landscape, Hardscape, Pool, Spa and Fence Plan. This application was approved with
conditions and contingent on working out the pathway easement and improvement
issues with the City Engineer and the Town. The Commission requested this item be
pulled and noticed for public hearing for May 12, 1993.
9.2 LANDS OF DORAN, 24920 La Loma Court; A request for a Site Development
Permit for a Landscape Plan. Approved with no changes to the plan but with a
requirement that before the project is finaled that the dedication document be recorded
and that a deposit be placed on the project for the clearing on the path that was required
on the project.
40 9.3 LANDS OF HARRINGTON, 12100 Hilltop Drive; A request for a Site Development
Permit for a Landscape Plan. Approved with the plantings as shown on the plan.
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The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 9:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
LaniLonberger
Planning Secretary