HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/25/2000Minutes of a Regular Meeting Approved 11/8/00
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Wednesday, October 25, 2000, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
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1. ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers
at Town Hall.
Present: Chairman Cottrell, Commissioners Vita, Gottlieb, Clow & Wong
Staff: Carl Cahill, Planning Director; Angelica Herrera, Assistant Planner; Lam Smith,
Planning Secretary
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS
lkir 3.1 LANDS OF DORRIAN, 25400 La Loma Drive (201 -00 -LM); A request for a
Lot Merger.
Staff introduced this item noting the lot merger is to combine two existing legal conforming
lots for the purpose of developing the property as a single lot with a single family residence
and accessory structure.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Harry Emerzian, Pathway Committee, for the record, he wanted to make sure that the pathway
easement is not landscaped over and it is kept clean and clear.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Clow and seconded by
Commissioner Vitu to recommend to the City Council approval of the lot merger, Lands of
Dotrian, 25400 La Loma Drive.
AYES: Chairman Cottrell, Commissioners Wong, Gottlieb, Vitu & Clow
NOES: None
This item will appear on a future City Council agenda.
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3.2 LANDS OF SINDHU & BERTRAND, 27060 Old Trace Lane (136-00-LLA);
A request for a Lot Line Adjustment.
Staff introduced this item noting that the house on Parcel 2 will be demolished by November
30, 2000. He suggested recommending approval to the Council provided that the house is
removed prior to the City Council public hearing. The accessory structures do not need to be
removed.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Mr. Sindhu and Ms. Bertrand, 1557 Montalto Drive, Mountain View, applicants, stated they
will be demolishing the house on Parcel 2 and the accessory structure on Parcel 3 by
November 30, 2000.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Commissioner Gottlieb noted that the pathway on Old Trace Lane was in the road right-of-
way.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Vitu and seconded by
Commissioner Wong to recommend to the City Council approval of the lot merger, Lands of
Sindhu & Bertrand, 27060 Old Trace Lane, conditioned on the removal of the main house on
kir Parcel 2.
AYES: Chairman Cottrell, Commissioners Clow, Gottlieb, Wong & Vita
NOES: None
This item will appear on a future City Council agenda.
3.3 LANDS OF KORMAN, 26157 Altadena Road (230-00-ZP-SD); A request for
a Site Development permit for a 1,417 square foot second story addition.
Staff introduced this item by providing the history of the original July 28, 1998 approval. The
property is under construction of a new one-story residence. Due to the request for a major
modification to the existing approved project, it is before the Planning Commission for
review. The Planning Commission originally approved a one story house and its location.
The applicant is requesting approval for a second story addition, maximum height 26.8 feet
above existing grade. There is already a second story addition approved as a part of the
original project (master bedroom area 508 square feet plus an additional 80 square feet).
What is not approved but is being proposed tonight is the 829 square foot second floor plan
that shows as bedrooms 4 and 5 indicated by story poles. Due to construction being
underway, it is not an option to push the house back to lessen the impact of the proposed
second story. Two skylights and one new dome are proposed with the application, all to be
L located on the second story roof. Commissioners Cottrell and Gottlieb disclosed that they had
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spoken to the applicants on the site. Also, a letter from concerned neighbors was received for
review.
Stan Field, 3631 Evergreen Drive, Palo Alto, project architect, clarified that the original
application proposed two second story wings, the master bedroom and an office with a dome.
The later has been removed and they would like it replaced with the second story bedrooms
without the dome. There are no windows facing the neighbors on the upper story.
Consideration was taken regarding setbacks with the previous approval. Originally they
wanted it on the property line but because of the neighbors they agreed to push the house back
50 feet rather than 30 feet on one side, and 45 feet on the other side, and slightly rotated the
house with a lot line adjustment. At the time it was felt this would provide areas for tree
screening. He provided a sketch of a tree screening plan and mentioned they could plant them
on a berm. He felt the house was low and unobtrusive. There are other two story houses in
the area and they are 175 feet away from the nearest neighbor. The pool is close to the house
and out of the setback. Trees will screen this area also. Regarding the concerns with the
skylights, he felt they would not be visible to the neighbors as there will be a parapet wall to
shield them from the neighbors. Commissioner Gottlieb asked if the parapet could be reduced
two feet? Mr. Field felt this is something that could be considered, if the skylights are
objectionable.
Diana Huffman, 26590 Snell Lane, had provided a letter which had been signed by a number
of the neighbors addressing their concerns, in particular, the following: neighbors to the west
expressed concern regarding the increased noise caused by the proposed gravel driveway and
turnaround; neighbors at 26590 Snell Lane concerned with safety of their small children
should the proposed pool be approved; the long delay in notifying the Planning Commission
and neighbors about the proposed changes; and clarification regarding the dome issue. She
further addressed items mentioned in the staff report regarding the mature trees which will
provide screening, and the proposed addition not affecting the view of the neighbors. The
proposed modifications would increase the height to 26.8 feet, an increase of 11.8 feet. The
proposed additions will be very visible from many areas. Since it will be so close to the west
side property line, the proposed second story structure would tower over the properties of the
adjacent neighbors and would cut off views of the outdoors which previously created a feeling
of openness. She purchased their property in June, 1999, and their decision to purchase the
property was based, in part, on knowing that the home to be built on the Korman site was
limited to 15 feet in height along the back west elevation. The proposed addition will
dramatacally change from the originally approved plan. There will be a loss of privacy and
increased lighting from windows located on the west and south sides of the proposed second
floor addition. She felt there were serious concerns regarding the ability to screen the
originally approved design. The proposed modifications to the floor plan also change the
focus area of the structure's backyard (pool area).
Josh Korman, 26157 Altadena Road, applicant, reviewed the history of the original approval
and clarified the changes made to the plan during the review process in July, 1998. He noted
much opposition regarding the house on the setback lines, even though they adhered to all the
taw rules and regulations spending two years working with the Town. The open space referred to
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ibr was not open space but their property. In order to accommodate the neighbors they moved
the lot line and rotated the house and increased the setbacks. After approval they met with the
neighbors to review the landscape plan. In the process of construction, he realized that each
one of his four children needed their own bedroom. They only have one location for the pool
which will be partially screened by the house and the trees. He reiterated that they are in total
compliance of the Town rules and regulations. They have the ability to screen with berms and
they have tried very hard to work with the neighbors.
Paul Newhagen, 14412 Kingsley Way, was concerned with the upward lighting (two new
skylights).
Stan Field did not feel Mr. Newhagen will see the skylights or if he does they can screen the
area in some way or raise the parapets.
Harry Emerzian, Pathways Committee, would like to make sure that the original conditions of
approval (July 22, 1998) #22, and #23 will still be effect if this application is approved.
Dr. Korman discussed the pathway conditions with Curtis Williams who felt it would be
alright to put in the IIB pathway after the construction of the house. He clarified that at the
City Council meeting, there was a condition of abandoning the Lowell Lane pathway
easement requiring the applicant to construct a IIB pathway on the opposite (east) side of
` Kingsley Way and to provide an easement and connection to Esther Clark Park. The City
` Manager determined that the path should be on the east side of Kingsley, to avoid the need to
cross the Korman driveway which will become even wider with the previous proposal.
Sandy Humphries, Environmental Design Committee, requested reviewing the variety of
palm trees to be used at their entry to make sure they will not seed into the wetland areas of
Esther Clark Park. She felt the area in the back of the property was a good place for trees as
they would not have to be as tall.
Steve Combs, 26640 Snell Court, would like to make sure his house area is screened (south
area) maintaining his privacy and that the drainage swale is maintained.
Dot Schreiner, 14301 Saddle Mountain Drive, felt if the domes were of any substantial size,
they have been treated as an extension of the roof and should be required to conform with the
roof reflectivity value.
Bob Glazebrook, 26623 Snell Lane, was under the impression the domes were deleted. Mr.
Cahill responded that the only dome was over the master bedroom approved at the previous
meeting in 1998. There are no domes proposed for this new two bedroom wing. Mr.
Glazebrook also noted that he was one of the signers of the letter opposing the addition.
Siobhan Korman, 26157 Altadena Road, applicant, also provided historical information
L regarding the property which has been kept open for 26 years. However, it is their property
fir1 and it is being developed. She also noted that they want privacy as much as the neighbors.
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CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
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Discussion ensued regarding screening and visibility. Commissioner Vito liked the
suggestion of using a berm and condition the trees tall enough for screening. She felt the
proposal fits within the ordinances and she would approved the project with conditioned
screening. Commissioner Wong asked for more details regarding drainage. Mr. Cahill noted
that the drainage plan was approved by the Planning Commission in 1998. The second story
addition should not effect the drainage plan. All the conditions of the original approval apply.
They could add a condition mitigating the effects of the two story addition. The berm was not
a part of the original drainage plan and would need to be reviewed by the engineering
department to make sure it does not create any drainage issues. Regarding skylights, the
standard skylight condition (#9) has been added. Commissioner Wong appreciated the
neighbors concerns but the proposal meets the codes and regulations. Commissioner Gottlieb
was disappointed since the Commission had spent a great deal of time on the original
application in 1998. When she had spoken to the Kormans, they were unaware of neighbor
opposition. They are adding I1 feet on a flat roof. She would prefer reducing the ceiling by 2
feet and the parapet by 2 feet; a 4 foot reduction. She can understand the need for two extra
bedrooms but the Commission should protect the neighbors. Commissioner Clow felt the
original approval was good. He did not understand why the applicants did not receive any
neighbor support. He was bothered that trees were planted and died, questioning future trees.
L He would like to see if they are able to grow some trees to demonstrate screening could grow.
�r He suggested delaying the second story addition until the trees are in place to provide
screening. He felt the structure was very boxy. Chairman Cottrell was troubled with the
addition but understood it meets codes and ordinances. He would prefer the bedrooms on the
ground floor. He could only support the project with a reduction of height by at least 2 feet.
Commissioner Clow did not feel that was an adequate reduction. Further discussion ensued
regarding the landscape plan returning to the Planning Commission and a higher landscape
deposit required to insure adequate screening. Dr. Korman noted the installation of an
expensive well ($30,000) to insure maintenance of landscaping. He would be willing to
reduce the height by 2 feet. Commissioner Gottlieb suggested berms with breaks so a
drainage situation would not occur and recommended 20 foot trees.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Vitu and seconded by
Commissioner Wong to approve the Site Development Permit modification for a second story
addition to a new residence under construction approved by the Planning Commission on July
22, 1998, Lands of Korman, 26157 Altadena Road, with the following additions/changes to
the conditions of approval: the landscape plan to retum to the Planning Commission for
review; lowering the roof height by 2 feet; increase the landscape deposit to $15,000; and a
landscape plan to include 20 foot trees, and work with staff regarding berms to maintain
drainage.
AYES: Chairman Cottrell, Commissioners Wong, Clow & Vint
NOES: Commissioner Gottlieb
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kW This approval is subject to a 22 day appeal period.
3.4 LANDS OF KORMAN, 26157 Altadena Road (231-00-ZP-SD); A request for
a Site Development Permit for a pool and landscape screening plan.
Staff had nothing further to add to the report.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To approve a Site Development Permit for a pool, Lands of
Korman, 26157 Altadena Road, noting that the landscape plan is not a part of this approval
and the landscape plan will be reviewed by the Planning Commission at a later date.
This approval is subject to a 22 day appeal period.
3.5 LANDS OF YANEZ, 26171 Moody Road (318-99-ZP-SD-GD); A request for
a Permit Modification (basement redesign) to a Site Development Permit for a
3,972 square foot new residence (maximum height 27 feet) approved May 30,
2000 at a Fast Track meeting.
Staff had nothing further to add to the report. Commissioner Gottlieb questioned the location
of the drainage pipe, the carport, and the stairs going up to the tower and whether or not the
height should be measured at 35 feet since there is development going up to the tower. It was
noted that the application is a review of the basement only.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Guy Ayers, 26969 Moody Road, project architect, provided overlays of the two basement
plans; one approved with the double planter wall between the walk out basement and the true
basement; the other basement plan submitted with the construction plans. The original plans
were approved at a Fast Track meeting by the former Planning Director. He suggested the fix
for the basement to meet the basement definition which currently is not flexible enough to
allow for situations for a walk out basement at the same level as the true basement. This was
a way of allowing people with walk out basements to have a true basement the same way as
people with a flatter lot would be allowed to have full basement or more under their entire
house and not include it in the floor and development calculation. Using the former Planning
Director's solution, they were able to go through the Fast Track process. Sheet A8.04 was
submitted with the building plan sets after discussion with the structural engineer and
deciding that it would be too cost prohibitive to have two concrete walls with dirt between
them. There are no changes to the exterior of the house; the changes are only internal. They
felt they have adhered to most of the basement definition as they still enter the basement from
above and the ceiling is still below grade on the exterior sides of the basement. The only
question was the internal wall of the basement and whether or not it was below grade. The
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three outer walls are all below ground; the one interior wall exposed. He felt the current
basement definition defeats fitting the house with the grade as it promotes leveling a flat area
to build a house on. He referred to the Building Code definition. He felt the Planning
Commission should encourage walk out basements. He further discussed measuring the
heights and meeting the 35 foot rule. All they are proposing is eliminating the 5 feet of dirt
and the extra wall. From the outside, there is no difference (all internal).
Nancy Ewald, Pathways Committee, reiterated the original Pathway recommendations for
granting a pathway easement along Chaparral Way. Mr. Cahill noted that the
recommendation was not a part of the conditions as the slope along Chaparral Way is
prohibited from ever constructing a pathway on this property. On the other side of Chaparral
Way, the Horton property, which is expected to come in for subdivision. At that time they
could require the pathway to be constructed in the right-of-way of Chaparral Way.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Commissioner Clow felt this was a similar situation as the Lands of Cleage where they maxed
out the floor area and getting an extra 1,760 square feet in a basement. Mr. Cleage was able
to do it completely with four walls incased in dirt; Yanez is on a slope which means they
forced him into a bizarre situation with the 5 feet of dirt rule. He thought what they cared
about is the square footage above grade. Given the direction received at the City Council
meeting, not do the 5 feet of dirt and go with a single wall. Commissioner Gottlieb noted that
the first floor of the house is at the same level as the basement. The reason the former
Planning Director imposed the 5 foot separation was to prevent cutting through. This has
been a regular practice of the Planning Commission. Commissioner Wong also asked what is
their objective regarding basements. He agreed with Commissioner Gottlieb that there may
be a tendency for some people to cut a hole through the wall but he felt they should not
assume this. It is not an assumption they should be making. He did not see any impact with a
single wall. Mr. Cahill responded that the 5 foot of separation is not to put the applicant
through some exercise nor is it to prevent the applicant from tunneling through and day -
lighting the basement. It was a technicality provided to the applicant by staff in order for
them to meet the current basement definition. It is this reason he believed they could not
approve this Permit Modification tonight as the current basement definition requires that a
basement be wholly underground. This basement is not wholly underground. The whole
south wall is above ground; above the adjoining grade. They can be sympathetic to the
applicant's cause and change the ordinance but they cannot simply approve this (conflict with
ordinance). If this is approved, this will be an entirely different way of interpreting the
basement definition. Commissioner Vita would like to allow this as it does not impact
anyone off-site but there is a consistency issue where other people had to count the space if
they did not install the retaining wall and dirt to totally underground their basement. She
would like to revisit the basement ordinance but at this point she was not comfortable
allowing the basement to be day -lighted. Chairman Cottrell agreed. He has seen other
basements separated. The basement ordinance does need to be revised. He cannot support
kW the application as submitted.
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Mr. Ayers felt he had interpreted the basement definition correctly and the Commission
should encourage walk out basements.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Gottlieb and seconded by
Commissioner Vim to deny the requested Site Development Permit modification finding that
the proposed basement does not meet the Town's basement definition (§10-1.208).
AYES: Chairman Cottrell, Commissioners Clow, Vitu & Gottlieb
NOES: Commissioner Wong
The appeal process was explained to the applicant and audience.
Brief break 9:06 p.m.
4. OLD BUSINESS
4.1 Report from subcommittees -none
5. NEW BUSINESS -none
6. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
6.1 Planning Commission Representative for October 19`", Commissioner
Gottlieb, reported on the following items: Lands of Porter; and Lands of Padmanabhan.
6.2 Planning Commission Representative for November 2" — Commissioner Vitu
Commissioner Gottlieb requested staff investigate the driveway cut at 27168 Moody Court.
7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
7.1 Approval of October 11, 2000 minutes
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To approve the October 11, 2000 minutes.
8. REPORT FROM THE FAST TRACK MEETING — OCTOBER 24,200
8.1 LANDS OF YANG, 28020 Laura Court (lot 22) (168-00-ZP-SD-GD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence, and a secondary
dwelling unit.
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9. REPORT FROM SITE DEVELOPMENT MEETING -OCTOBER 24 2000
9.1 LANDS OF BOONMARK, 27233 Deer Springs Way (183-00-ZP-SD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for an addition and hardscape
improvements. Approved with conditions.
9.2 LANDS OF FURBUSH, 14190 Amherst Court (221-00-ZP-SD); A request for
a Site Development Permit for secondary dwelling unit. Approved with
conditions.
9.3 LANDS OF ROSCOE, 12243 Tepa Way (223-00-ZP-SD); A request for a Site
Development Permit for an addition. Approved with conditions.
10. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 9:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lani Smith
Planning Secretary